For collection purposes only

[The Stork]

Does anybody here know revere's website. I am looking for the Revere RAPC index numbers. Does anyone know where I can get them? Your help is appreciated.

 

[Harman]

Don't talk to this guy!! His occupation is e!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :grin:

Have you tried google?

 

[zengrifter]

Does anybody here know revere's website. I am looking for the Revere RAPC index numbers. Does anyone know where I can get them? Your help is appreciated.

There is NO Revere anymore.

Now, what are you asking:
Revere Point Count (level-2);
Revere Advanced Point Count '71 version (level-4); or
Revere Adnanced Point Count '73 version (level-4)? zg

 

[The Stork]

Some adds

Revere Advanced Point Count '71 version (level-4);

Revere Adnanced Point Count '73 version (level-4)

What is the difference between these both versions. Would like to have insights in them both. Like you know I am a while here on this board. I have mastered the game through Zen I met at suicide street fremont in the western a cuople of years ago. I went from upc uston to uston -/+ for the simple reason that bankroll wasn't over 15000 to make a difference in profit.

But I am having a casino bankroll basically, therefore I am convinced that because of the replenishment level of my bankroll I should go for a higher advanced count. Level 1 is far below my sculpture based upon the experience level I have.

I am totally focuced upon blackjack with a side bet on poker inclusive a top poker coach. One will feed the other one day to really pull it of.

I need to be challenged and I feel that does not do it anymore playing a one level system, how good the advise maybe might be. So what is left?

Back to APC uston? A good single deck of double deck game is hard to find so rather play there High opt. APC Uston used with more than 2 decks is a pain in the but based upon Aces as side count. Uston SS (with a true count)has a great betting efficiency together with Revere RAPC. So What I am doing now? I think it would be a great result pulling 10 seconds on the clock with that count...lol Like I said...I am getting bored of simplicity because growth and lazyness can not walk together.

Comments would be welcome, although I already see Zen screaming in my ear not to act so stupid............lol

So it might be for collective purposes only but I want to have it in my blackjack collectums.

Revere RAPC 71 and 74.........if the difference can be explained within those two.

:whip:

 

[zengrifter]

RAPC - '71 or '73 - is out. Ace-sidecounts are out.
Likewise for HO2, UAPC, AO3, etc., out.

That leaves:

-- ZEN '83 (1DTC)
-- RPC (1DTC)
-- UBZ (noTC)
-- Mentor (2DTC)

Anyone else? zg

Ps - Stork, delete the duplicate post above, please.

 

[The Stork]

out out out

Ok.

Thanks Zen,

what are the main motivations those counts are not relative anymore?
That Zen 83 is the count you use right?

Thanks for the direction you give me! When ever I meet you I will count Zen in 10 seconds....lol



So you basically suggest me if I want to put some more effort to learn Zen? UBZ outperformes uston SS?

>>>>>>>>That leaves:

-- ZEN '83 (1DTC)
-- RPC (1DTC)
-- UBZ (noTC)
-- Mentor (2DTC)<<<<<<<<<<

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[The Stork]

Zen you suggested also this zen unbalanced count, but never knew there were two version of them. Which you prefer according to your list?

Thanks,

Please answer the last email from me. Is everyone else avoiding Stork?

Unbalanced Zen by George C.
This report explains George C.s' original unbalanced version of the Zen count. It is one of the most powerful yet practical systems ever devised for the hand held game of blackjack. Editor note: George C is currently the moderator of the BJRnet Shuffle Tracking board in the Green Zone.
Unbalanced Zen I $19.95 Special $17.95



Unbalanced Zen II by George C.
This reports explains George C.'s simplified unbalanced version of the Zen count. Simpler yet still very powerful. Includes a 16 page manual and comparisons with other systems. See BJR 5.1 for review and excerpt. Editor note: George C is currently the moderator of the BJRnet Shuffle Tracking board in the Green Zone.
Unbalanced Zen II $19.95 - TEMPORARILY OUT OF STOCK / WE SHOULD HAVE STOCK BY JUN 30, 2008

 

[zengrifter]

We're talking about the same thing - UBZ. But most everything you need is in this forum - see Open Source UBZ sticky.

If you learn any of the others you will need to learn a recalibrated TC-adjustment RPC & ZEN (1D or 2DTC), Mentor (1D or 2DTC). zg

Ps - If I didn't care about you I'd have you go over the Revere's home and meet his daughter. The last guy I know who went there, after having incredible success with RPC, was sold the RAPC'71 AFTER he very clearly explained that he only would play single deck!

 

[The Stork]

Hi Zen

Well, thanks for the reply. According to his daughter I became for a long time already a-sexual based upon the everlasting observations at the blackjack tables that woman can not stand fluctuations. :laugh:

Well...tell me what should be my move now if I persist to learn something else. I think you advise would be Zen right. I have notices that the overall performances between uston ss and UBZ and red seven are highly in favour of UBZ. You agree with that?

I follow the master and he brougth me enlightment in a way that any word spoken out loud, can't correlate to the truth because that can only observed in silence in order to be as near as possible.

Stork

 

[zengrifter]

Well, thanks for the reply. According to his daughter I became for a long time already a-sexual based upon the everlasting observations at the blackjack tables that woman can not stand fluctuations. :laugh:

Well...tell me what should be my move now if I persist to learn something else. I think you advise would be Zen right. I have notices that the overall performances between uston ss and UBZ and red seven are highly in favour of UBZ. You agree with that?

I follow the master and he brougth me enlightment in a way that any word spoken out loud, can't correlate to the truth because that can only observed in silence in order to be as near as possible.

Stork

Yes UBZ is level-2 unbalanced - all decision index#s and betting based on RC not TC. Read through UBZ sticky. zg

 

[The Stork]

so far

So Zen, once we continue together our revolutional partnership you are telling me to do the unbalanced version of the UZB or the one you are doing? I am confused now. What is my master telling me?

:laugh: but please answer

Zen...I miss us!

Stu

 

[zengrifter]

Zen...I miss us!

Shhhhh... people will talk. zg

Ps - Do you feel confident with TC-adjustment?

 

[The Stork]

Ok

People always talk because they have lack of courage to be real themselves.

but.......in correlation to your question. Yes I am ok with TC. My question is sincere what should be the best continuation of my blackjack counting carreer? I play mixed games. I know BE is far more important in shoe games comparing pitch games. I have read through those ubz sticky stuff and the last post from you was really the most clear. Why not using Zen?

Actually uston SS or any unbalanced count can be used with a true edge approach too in order to get a direct percentage. The overall advantage could be higher playing Zen or ubz but does that really mean you make more money when you play with a 20.000 dollar bankroll. I think that BE will outperform everything. Decisions 16/10 insurance 12-2 are critical and for Pe the most important.

Personal I think that counts with high be are far more important than PE, specially when you get high bankroll. And as you know that is something I am working on. Therefore uston SS and RPC are the counts I personal like more based upon BE.

I hope you understand my motivation. Please check my reasoning.

Thanks Zen,

Bark

 

[zengrifter]

Even in shoe games, RPC and ZEN are equal, BUT you will need to RE-LEARN how to normalize TC for 1D instead of 1/2D. zg

 

[The Stork]

Hi zen

where can i get the full indices for rpc? Using 1 deck TC is actually very simple. I think I have seen post that says if you want a halve deck TC using rpc you could use the high low indices??? Is that true Zen?

I also have seen your post somewhere you advise to use 1 count with one set of index numbers. I agree with that too. Confirm please!

I want to visit you in July. let me know where I have to go and email me to my email.

Thanks, answering both questions and advise me upon the quesion above.

thanks,

Stork

 

[zengrifter]

where can i get the full indices for rpc? Using 1 deck TC is actually very simple. I think I have seen post that says if you want a halve deck TC using rpc you could use the high low indices??? Is that true Zen?

I also have seen your post somewhere you advise to use 1 count with one set of index numbers. I agree with that too. Confirm please!

Yes and yes - RPC w/ 1/2D TC will work fine with 1D HiLo #s.
And yes, you only ever need a single composite set of indices good for any# decks. zg

Ps - Your cell-phone still isn't recaharged$.

 

[The Stork]

oh!

Zen, I know I am not recharged yet. I possible have to buy a complete new phone. I have actually a phone card so tell me when I can reach you or sent me the address of your house so I am going to ring the bell in July...lol

Ok..for the order of completeness. Besides the high low 1/2 deck index use where can i get the index numbers if used 1deck rpc. Anybody has them here.
I am not going to buy them for 200 dollar currently offered by family revera.

Thanks and suggestions for editing my book. Yea we need to talk a while and soon. Love,

Your enlightment brother,

Stork barking or not:laugh:

 

[zengrifter]

Zen, I know I am not recharged yet. I possible have to buy a complete new phone. I have actually a phone card so tell me when I can reach you or sent me the address of your house so I am going to ring the bell in July...lol

Ok..for the order of completeness. Besides the high low 1/2 deck index use where can i get the index numbers if used 1deck rpc. Anybody has them here.
I am not going to buy them for 200 dollar currently offered by family revera.

Thanks and suggestions for editing my book. Yea we need to talk a while and soon. Love,

Your enlightment brother,

Stork barking or not:laugh:

Here is a 1/2D TC matrix good for RPC or ZEN. zg

Qfit - RPC CV Tables
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[The Stork]

Index RPC multiple deck

I am guessing that the conversion from ZEN 2DTC described above will be so close to RPC 1/2DTC, after final rounding, that no further index generation will be necessary. zg
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So that is the final table for 1/2 deck at page 2 of that threat? Now what should be better? Learn the high low tables and use them using RPC or learning this or what ever you feel better about. Kind of confusing!

Is there not an ill18 for RVP using 1/2 count. It is not necessary to learn all those index numbers anymore in modern blackjack only done by those never playing! I am slowly understanding why you do Zen? It is cut and clear and available in the bookshop inclusive index numbers...lol

Comment please!

Stork

Stork

 

[BJinNJ]

The I18 are independent of your count.

Just pick the indices for the I18 plays from your table and
use them. It doesn't matter if your count uses 1/2D TC,
1D TC, or 2D TC.

Indices do change depending on the count tags and TC method.

BJinNJ