Fred Renzey's Magnificent Seven

gobbledygeek

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I've search the internet and found lots of mention of Fred Renzey's Magnificent Seven hands, hands that can differ from Basic Strategy given the number of small cards and big cards currently on the table (not card counting). I've found the hands but for the life of me I can't find the actual numbers for when I'm to adjust the strategy. Does anyone know what they are?

Casino I play at has 5 decks, hits Soft 17, allows double after splitting and only lose original bets on dealer blackjack. Here's the Magnificent Seven hands (I think?) and my original Basic Strategy.

9 vs 2 (hit)
11 vs A (double down)
12 vs 4 (stand)
13 vs 2 (stand)
16 vs 10 (surrender)
A8 vs 5 (stand)
A8 vs 6 (double down)
 

Cass

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gobbledygeek said:
I've search the internet and found lots of mention of Fred Renzey's Magnificent Seven hands, hands that can differ from Basic Strategy given the number of small cards and big cards currently on the table (not card counting). I've found the hands but for the life of me I can't find the actual numbers for when I'm to adjust the strategy. Does anyone know what they are?

Casino I play at has 5 decks, hits Soft 17, allows double after splitting and only lose original bets on dealer blackjack. Here's the Magnificent Seven hands (I think?) and my original Basic Strategy.

9 vs 2 (hit)
11 vs A (double down)
12 vs 4 (stand)
13 vs 2 (stand)
16 vs 10 (surrender)
A8 vs 5 (stand)
A8 vs 6 (double down)


Five decks ?? sounds like a CSM, ive never seen 5 decks before. if it is a shoe game, Those hands you are refering to are supposed to be played liek this anytime his KiSS count stage I is 20+
9 vs 2 (double down)
11 vs A (double down)
12 vs 4 (stand)
13 vs 2 (stand)
16 vs 10 (stand)
A8 vs 5 (double down)
A8 vs 6 (double down)

These are the variations from basic strategy.
 

zengrifter

Banned
gobbledygeek said:
I've found the hands but for the life of me I can't find the actual numbers for when I'm to adjust the strategy. Does anyone know what they are?
Despite what Renzey says, those numbers won't do anything for your game. Either you learn a simple-version HiLo or KO, or you keep upping your bets when the deck favors the house. zg
 

gobbledygeek

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The casino I play at does use CSMs and usually only deals out <= 1 deck before putting the cards back in the CSM. Just for fun, I've been practising keeping count but the count rarely gets favourable before the cards are put back into the CSM.
 
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