games in AC getting worse

Thunder

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I have found that the penetration across the board for the 6 deck games has been going downhill since the summer. Just a few weeks ago, 85% penetration was to be had but now I'm having trouble finding anything better than 75%. In addition, the Trop has instituted no mid shoe entry on virtually all of their $25 6 deck games.
 

kewljason

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We know ya gotta shop around. The games are very dealer dependant, but I know just what you mean. Sometimes I go 2 or 3 weeks and seems I can't find little better than a deck and a half cut, and then the next trip I hit 3 or 4 dealers cutting deeper. Seems like a crap shoot. I haven't noticed any long term trend of games getting worse though. What I have noticed, (and maybe it's just my imagination, but I don't think so) is that when a decent game or store gets mentioned either here or on BJ21, that game tends to get worse for a few weeks. (And I've been guilty of doing this)

As for NMSE, that doesn't bother me that much. There are only a couple places left in AC that allow mid shoe entry, and even fewer that I am interested in entering, :laugh: , so I just prefer to play off the top and wong out at negative counts. If you visit the same few stores over and over several times a week I think this draws less attention than always jumping in.
 

moo321

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kewljason said:
We know ya gotta shop around. The games are very dealer dependant, but I know just what you mean. Sometimes I go 2 or 3 weeks and seems I can't find little better than a deck and a half cut, and then the next trip I hit 3 or 4 dealers cutting deeper. Seems like a crap shoot. I haven't noticed any long term trend of games getting worse though. What I have noticed, (and maybe it's just my imagination, but I don't think so) is that when a decent game or store gets mentioned either here or on BJ21, that game tends to get worse for a few weeks. (And I've been guilty of doing this)

As for NMSE, that doesn't bother me that much. There are only a couple places left in AC that allow mid shoe entry, and even fewer that I am interested in entering, :laugh: , so I just prefer to play off the top and wong out at negative counts. If you visit the same few stores over and over several times a week I think this draws less attention than always jumping in.
Keep a log of who the good dealers are, and when they deal.
 

kewljason

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moo321 said:
Keep a log of who the good dealers are, and when they deal.
I do keep a log of my play, but oddly enough it's for almost the exact opposite reason. I play the same few locations over and over so often that I purposely try to spread my play out among different shift, trying not to hit the same shifts multiple times in a row.
 
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A log of ideal dealers

moo321 said:
Keep a log of who the good dealers are, and when they deal.
Speaking of a good dealer log, I get one (see below). Let's trade dealer info. What do you guys think:confused:?
 
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johndoe

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Pat said:
Speaking of a good dealer log, I get one (see below). Let's trade dealer info. What do you guys think:confused:?
Why on earth would you post this? That is incredibly foolish and irresponsible. There is plenty of info there to kill all of these games.
 

21forme

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johndoe said:
Why on earth would you post this? That is incredibly foolish and irresponsible. There is plenty of info there to kill all of these games.
And even though some of the dealers were at now defunct places, that doesn't mean they didn't move next door.
 

Sonny

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I have removed the attachment from that post at the request of several members. Feel free to share the information privately if you wish.

-Sonny-
 

StandardDeviant

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Pat said:
Speaking of a good dealer log, I get one (see below). Let's trade dealer info. What do you guys think:confused:?
Pat, you have to realize that the casinos monitor this forum. We're speaking in public and might as well assume that every casino has someone in casino security tagged with monitoring every word of what we say.

When you publish info like this, you do casino security's job, and ruin these games for us. :mad:
 
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Exchange of sensitive info

Sonny said:
I have removed the attachment from that post at the request of several members. Feel free to share the information privately if you wish.
-Sonny-
OK. I never did intend to share the sensitive useful info for FREE---I've wanted to TRADE the info only. Thus, the Claridge & Sands' flashers on the Excel spreadsheet were useless because Catchers Bob Reyer and Michael Blondie had corrected the Flashers' weaknesses during the Fall of the Berlin Wall. Thanks to the publicities generated here so far---If some resident-APs here are up in arms against the info contained in the spreassheet, the info must be really good:laugh:---I will definitely receive PMs from bona-fide-APs who want to trade. Thanks again guys for the unexpected publicities:grin:.

PS: To APs who have PMed me: please be patient. I need to be sure--- you're NOT "casino-connected" before trading with you.

PPS: Are there any guys here who want to learn how to do "flashing" in addition to wonging?
 
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Ferretnparrot

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Thunder said:
I have found that the penetration across the board for the 6 deck games has been going downhill since the summer. Just a few weeks ago, 85% penetration was to be had but now I'm having trouble finding anything better than 75%. In addition, the Trop has instituted no mid shoe entry on virtually all of their $25 6 deck games.
in my experience with the trop, they seem to deploy nomidshoe signs on every 25 dollar table in the pit on the main floor, they take them down when the table goes under 25 dollars
 

peaegg

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Ferretnparrot said:
in my experience with the trop, they seem to deploy nomidshoe signs on every 25 dollar table in the pit on the main floor, they take them down when the table goes under 25 dollars
When the limit is up to $25, the pit will put NMS sign up if a player requests for it. My last trip I was still be able to find 4 tables without NMS at that pit. Usually they are further away from high limit room, because they are the last that the minimum is being raised. That was in the afternoon when the whole pit was at least $25.
 

WRX

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Pat said:
Are there any guys here who want to learn how to do "flashing" in addition to wonging?
I'm starting my own dealer school to teach flashing. It'll be the best deal in town for anyone wanting to break into the casino industry.
 
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