Gaming Wire comments on Griffin's loss to Grosjean

zengrifter

zengrifter

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Gaming Wire's Rod Smith:

"The recent defamation trial of Griffin Investigations was a shocker for industry insiders who thought the outside detective agency kept casinos clean. The Griffin Gold Book of cheats is a five-volume list of names and mug shots that can be accessed online. Griffin also sells a facial recognition program and alerts casinos when doubtful characters are on the move. But catch this: The firm only has four employees and grosses $600,000 a year. The trial left some wondering if Griffin was just a paper tiger."

Gaming Wire Editor Rod Smith can be reached by e-mail at [email protected]
 
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learning to count

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Defamed!!!! F%ck griffin

Four weasel investigators who are just wanna be dick traceys. From what I saw at the trial they have to lie in order to further the Mythology of the card counter who took vegas. They could not get any business without the lies. They have been jumping on the hype that Uston started and the MIT brats are bragging about.

Talk about greed. I overheard Recently divorced Bev Griffin telling two nurds that she was in the Market for a real man! A guy with splash, pizzaz, class, and cold hard cash to keep her in Diamonds and Caviar. She is a real dish. Hey ZG maybe you should hook up with the old hag! Nah I wouldnt do that to any one.
 
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Victoria

Well-Known Member
a real sweet deal

My understanding is that the main, non thrust of Griffin's work is simply taking the information supplied to them by those who pay them (the casinos), then putting it all together and giving it back to the casinos. Geeze, 600K for something one person probably can do in a few hours a day.
I guess the investigators are needed only to prove to their clients that they have investigators. Go out to a casino and tag along with survielance or security, look at their book and say something brilliant like "yup, that's the guy." Another purpose of investigators would be to backing up a casino lie, by a non casino person, to the gaming or law enforcement folks.
 
Al Rogers

Al Rogers

BJ21.com Administrator
Rod Smith is our friend

Gaming Wire Editor Rod Smith can be reached by e-mail at [email protected]

Rod Smith usually writes well-balanced, fair articles. He has often written about casino abuse of skilled players. He knows the difference between an honest, legal advantage player and a cheat. I suspect that this unfortunate paragraph was the result of editing that was beyond Mr. Smith's control.

If you choose to email him, please be polite and be sure to thank him for his many fine articles in the past. It is entirely possible that he submitted this article and never saw the finished product before it was too late.
 
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learning to count

Well-Known Member
well I know

a dozen of full time AP's who know what the griffin nerds can do. Griffin claims the demise of the MIT group as their own work. they did a lot of spying on the boys plus use of bullying to send the message home! F#ck griffin!
 
Al Rogers

Al Rogers

BJ21.com Administrator
"Cheats"

The Griffin Gold Book of cheats is a five-volume list of names and mug shots that can be accessed online.

I thought the failure to make a distinction between cheats and legal skilled players may be offensive to some, and that you were calling for emails to Mr Smith protesting this obvious oversight.
 
Automatic Monkey

Automatic Monkey

Banned
We are cheats

But we don't cheat at blackjack. We cheat the system which exists to take as much money as possible from casino patrons through deception and exploitation.

However cheating in a casino is a serious crime in Nevada and that word should never be used to identify individual advantage players. False accusation of a felony is always a tort.
 
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