Getting crowded

trixie

Member
Up early at my hotel and sit at an empty $10 DD table. Play a match$5 and run it to 10 units on one deal. Leave with a crowd around to sit and run DT. Maybe this is the day.
Run DT and sit at a $10 DD with one player, I get a players card and they ask the other player to get one. He declines twice and I notice he has 2 stacks of green about 7-8 inches high, short stack red,- OK I'm profiling. I'm doing OK and 10 minutes later the PB comes around again with a clip board to count his chips. Asks if he will move his green so he can make an accurate count and again goes through the players card offer. Shakes his head, must be mute. 10 Minutes later, same thing and I notice we're riding our bets. 10 Minutes later I color up 22 units and head down the street.
Find a slow DD table with 2 gamblers and 2 guys joined at the hip. The 2 guys are playing red, mostly matching each other and some an increase in total, 1 & 5. OK so here I go again. They bet 8red each and get a cheques play call. I'm at min, damn have I reverted to reversing the count? I'm at -2. I draw out, they both bust and their bets get very humble. I'm out of there shortly -4 and down the street.
Find a store with $5-SD tables uncrowded and give it a try. Realize I don't know the game but decide to give it a try. What the hell, it starts at TC. Playing with one other player who has the balls to wong out continously with the greatest excuse I've ever heard. I'm really impressed but this may be his only store left. Exit -6 and quite a lesson. Don't know what I'm doing at SD so up the street.
Opened a $10 DD table and was soon surrouned with gamblers and fast dealers who give advice and left -4. Up the street.
Opened a $5 table with green dealer and got a 65% cut card on the second deal but it was the wrong way up. Threw my 1st hand across the table and gave the PB my players card and stormed away. Dealer had discovered how to make her life easier by shuffling less. Found a 2/3 deck where the PB sent me and found contented but crowded table. Was sitting off 1st base with open spots either side when here came Mr. Hollywood. Hyper type, reflective high contrast sunglasses, standing and playing with chips and if that wasn't enough announced he played with his chips. Brought a bag of red and one's who quickly asked if I could move over so he could play both spots. I didn't understand and wished him good luck. He asked again and I gave him the cup holder from my left. No luck, he insisted and I moved over. He played 5s on the spots and 5 on one spot on the deals thereafter. Jumped up to 2 $25+ capped with
a single on plus counts. He got immediate attention from the pit and then heat disappeared. Damn if I'm gonna move, camera was on him only, I hope. What an ego. Took him a half hour to figure out I was next to him and he had to confirm it by placing a single $5 on a plus 3. I jumped up and before he left he had to tell his Ego couple who were watching him that I was a "hush hush", loud enough for the dealer. He left with half a sack which he proclaimed was a $60 per hour profit. I'll never give away an AP and I hope this doesn't but this is really too much.
OK, I know I'm venting but it really seems to be getting crowded out there.

Thank God for Ploppies.
 

phantom007

Well-Known Member
My Experience is Different.....

I have rarely encountered other GOOD AP's at my table. And the few times it has occured, it it pretty much obvious to anyone who wants to observe!

Player 1B (the "other guy/gal") and Player 3B (me), always raise/lower their bets at the same time, and likely MOST OBVIOUS, when juicy Ins. situations arise, seem to be racing against each other "TO GET THEIR BET OUT"!

Likewise, in multi-deck games, seem to be racing each other to the bathroom when the count tanks, with the LOSER forced to "Min. Bet" the remainder of the cards, and the WINNER, depending on gender, forced to either "Shake-it" and/or "Wipe-it" FOR THE CAMERAS, just in case! BOTH Parties know that going to the bathroom at the same time is a bad idea!

Generally, if I enter a table, and later realize there is another AP ahead of me, i.e., already there, I play a few hands and leave. No sense in both of us getting barred.

Conversely, if another AP enters "MY TABLE", once it should be obvious that the situation is "mutually recognized", I give him/her a few hands to "bow out". If he/she does not leave, sometimes I do....again, no sense in both of us getting barred.....other times, I min. bet Pos. Cts., play stupid, and "EAT CARDS".

IMHO, no more than one CC'er per table should be the accepted rule.

phantom007.
 
Sometimes

In no-heat shoe situations I've sat with other counters and we've spoken somewhat openly. This is usually in crowded casinos where you don't have much choice but to play-all and just sit there and grind away against the game- when you find a dealer giving good pen on a night like that you don't just walk away. It's good to have someone to share a laugh and maybe an obscure index play with.

The only time I got really pissed off was when there was a counter talking with me and playing next to me, we recognized each other as counters, and he started cheating. Openly capping bets and clumsily at that. And during a really high count so I couldn't walk away (although I probably should have in retrospect). I did walk away at the end of the shoe and apparently he had been removed and I started playing again, and was talking to the pit boss who caught him. I told him I wasn't working with the guy, didn't know him, never saw him before in my life, and he told me they all realized that. Good thing too, that would make me angry beyond words to be 86'ed or arrested for someone else's cheating.
 
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