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phantom007
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#1...Start Smoking....
#2...Start Drinking, or just skip #1 and do lots of #2, then you will not care about #1.
#3...Losers/Dreamers are WONDERFUL...We want Casino's to make lots of $$$ from their BJ tables. Just not from us!
#4...Proventil Inhaler, 2 puffs every 4 hours as needed...also good "Backroom Insurance"...if they try to drag you off, start choking, gagging, sucking your inhaler, and demand an ambulance.
#5...Flonase Nasal Spray...nearly as effective as #4 for allergy prevention, though would not be as likely to keep you from being "backroomed". Rolling in the floor with a bottle of nosespray in you left nostril is not as frightening to a layperson.
#6...Singulair 10mg at bedtime...will need to take at least 3 days consecutively before going to casino, and throughout stay.
#7...Ask players who are sitting down at your table something like: "I am a p#ssy. Smoke really bothers me. Would you mind not smoking while I am here?"
Many smokers are actually nice folks, and will comply. I personally would say "f#ck-off", and light up several at the same time, just to get heads-up action.
#8...Heroin. Yes Heroin, a strong opiate, and a very effective cough suppressant.
And a few other ideas, albeit more Radical, include:
#9...seek out non-Smoking tables that most casinos now offer. Very easy to find. They are usually the empty ones.
#10...seek out non-Smoking casinos. Very Hard to find...they keep going out of business. A number of years ago, some store across the street from the Stardust tried this....I think now it is a Walgreens or T-shirt shop or something.
Hope these ideas help.
phantom007.
#2...Start Drinking, or just skip #1 and do lots of #2, then you will not care about #1.
#3...Losers/Dreamers are WONDERFUL...We want Casino's to make lots of $$$ from their BJ tables. Just not from us!
#4...Proventil Inhaler, 2 puffs every 4 hours as needed...also good "Backroom Insurance"...if they try to drag you off, start choking, gagging, sucking your inhaler, and demand an ambulance.
#5...Flonase Nasal Spray...nearly as effective as #4 for allergy prevention, though would not be as likely to keep you from being "backroomed". Rolling in the floor with a bottle of nosespray in you left nostril is not as frightening to a layperson.
#6...Singulair 10mg at bedtime...will need to take at least 3 days consecutively before going to casino, and throughout stay.
#7...Ask players who are sitting down at your table something like: "I am a p#ssy. Smoke really bothers me. Would you mind not smoking while I am here?"
Many smokers are actually nice folks, and will comply. I personally would say "f#ck-off", and light up several at the same time, just to get heads-up action.
#8...Heroin. Yes Heroin, a strong opiate, and a very effective cough suppressant.
And a few other ideas, albeit more Radical, include:
#9...seek out non-Smoking tables that most casinos now offer. Very easy to find. They are usually the empty ones.
#10...seek out non-Smoking casinos. Very Hard to find...they keep going out of business. A number of years ago, some store across the street from the Stardust tried this....I think now it is a Walgreens or T-shirt shop or something.
Hope these ideas help.
phantom007.
?learning to count
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You may have a point.
"""all the losers/dreamers/drinkers and mostly all the cig smoke..
I seem to be coughing all the time..
anybody else having similar effects,ideas?"""
The cigarettes suck especially a$$holes who blow it your way! The better Casinos have better smoke eaters. As far as the suckers, who cares, its fun to watch them play like a$$holes anyway. I used to get annoyed when I was just starting now thier play can have a cover affect for me. The a$$hole ploppies that complain about your play pi$$ me off because they can draw attention to you. Your need a break. Take a vacation to Las Vegas and see the shows swim in the pool go see red rock canyon too. Try to play 4am to 10 am less crowds and less ploppies too.
"""all the losers/dreamers/drinkers and mostly all the cig smoke..
I seem to be coughing all the time..
anybody else having similar effects,ideas?"""
The cigarettes suck especially a$$holes who blow it your way! The better Casinos have better smoke eaters. As far as the suckers, who cares, its fun to watch them play like a$$holes anyway. I used to get annoyed when I was just starting now thier play can have a cover affect for me. The a$$hole ploppies that complain about your play pi$$ me off because they can draw attention to you. Your need a break. Take a vacation to Las Vegas and see the shows swim in the pool go see red rock canyon too. Try to play 4am to 10 am less crowds and less ploppies too.
learning to count
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You may have a second good point!
drinking,joking,smoking,acting,etc.
....is part of the game,most (intelligent) card counters know this. Drinking bottled water all the time while seriously staring at the cards and bets while trying to concentrate in total silence and fresh air is a sure sign of an inexperienced struggling card counter who lacks(oxygen)intelligence. It is also a dead give'away to the pit boss. I've seen the pit laugh at these types,get the drift?
....is part of the game,most (intelligent) card counters know this. Drinking bottled water all the time while seriously staring at the cards and bets while trying to concentrate in total silence and fresh air is a sure sign of an inexperienced struggling card counter who lacks(oxygen)intelligence. It is also a dead give'away to the pit boss. I've seen the pit laugh at these types,get the drift?
learning to count
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Tommy you started with the sarchasm....
all eyes said is that he was tired of the smoke and a44holes. this is the result of a card counter who is obviously playing long sessions. WHhn I started out I perfected my game by such long sessions too. It was torture at times trying to count play and act the part all the while learing how to handle the harsh environment. SO lets just all try to get along!
all eyes said is that he was tired of the smoke and a44holes. this is the result of a card counter who is obviously playing long sessions. WHhn I started out I perfected my game by such long sessions too. It was torture at times trying to count play and act the part all the while learing how to handle the harsh environment. SO lets just all try to get along!
Automatic Monkey
Banned
I've been told that by dealers
They've told me that counters never drink or smoke, talk to anyone, and they stare at the cards. I took a sip of my martini, looked him in the eye and said "No sh!t, really?" I've better than average peripheral vision and pattern recognition so that helps me a lot with table deportment. Smoking is something I'd never do but not smoking and being offended by smoke is common enough these days, especially in the Northeast (where California smoking rules are becoming the standard), that it isn't a giveaway as a person like a counter who doesn't belong.
Want to clear out a table? Get a book of matches and start striking them, one by one, and staring at them as they burn in your fingers.
They've told me that counters never drink or smoke, talk to anyone, and they stare at the cards. I took a sip of my martini, looked him in the eye and said "No sh!t, really?" I've better than average peripheral vision and pattern recognition so that helps me a lot with table deportment. Smoking is something I'd never do but not smoking and being offended by smoke is common enough these days, especially in the Northeast (where California smoking rules are becoming the standard), that it isn't a giveaway as a person like a counter who doesn't belong.
Want to clear out a table? Get a book of matches and start striking them, one by one, and staring at them as they burn in your fingers.
learning to count
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Does any one else think that tommy....
is a sarchastic joker or is it just me.
is a sarchastic joker or is it just me.
learning to count
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I have noticed that the casino
get uptight when you are beating the $hit out of them. As far as the casino throwing a person out for all of the above reasons well then maybe that place is not worth playing at. Besides most of the heat i have experienced is when I am betting black. It takes big moeny to win big money and then the heat comes. I know there have been times when a back off comes when ya win a couple a hundred and the pit monkey pi$$es in his pants. But most big problems occur when they notice your winning and expert play. It just looks obvious. Sometimes all the bull$hit acting just dont work. You have to hit them fast and hard and you have to keep one eye on the game one eye on the Pit monkeys and both eyes on the exit door. The smoking by all the degenerates around you still sux and am tired of it as well! Keep on counting and keep a positive EV.
get uptight when you are beating the $hit out of them. As far as the casino throwing a person out for all of the above reasons well then maybe that place is not worth playing at. Besides most of the heat i have experienced is when I am betting black. It takes big moeny to win big money and then the heat comes. I know there have been times when a back off comes when ya win a couple a hundred and the pit monkey pi$$es in his pants. But most big problems occur when they notice your winning and expert play. It just looks obvious. Sometimes all the bull$hit acting just dont work. You have to hit them fast and hard and you have to keep one eye on the game one eye on the Pit monkeys and both eyes on the exit door. The smoking by all the degenerates around you still sux and am tired of it as well! Keep on counting and keep a positive EV.
Automatic Monkey
Banned
It's like any other kind of surveillance
There are more players than surveillance slaves, so they obviously can't watch everybody all the time. Profiling is where they start, just like the police do. If you are spreading, they wil catch you if they evaluate your play, sooner or later. But if your look or your behavior match the profile of a counter that they are assuming, you will be the first person's play that they evaluate and you wll be ejected sooner rather than later. All an act does is buy you time.
There are more players than surveillance slaves, so they obviously can't watch everybody all the time. Profiling is where they start, just like the police do. If you are spreading, they wil catch you if they evaluate your play, sooner or later. But if your look or your behavior match the profile of a counter that they are assuming, you will be the first person's play that they evaluate and you wll be ejected sooner rather than later. All an act does is buy you time.
a tip for four eyeballs
One eye on the pit,one one the game and a two eyeballs on the door!?
Pit boss.. "What the hell does this guy keep looking around and staring at me for,is something wrong?"
It's a good idea to just have fun and dont freak out on your surroundings.
Uh,is it a sarcasion, or just a tip for the young lad?
One eye on the pit,one one the game and a two eyeballs on the door!?
Pit boss.. "What the hell does this guy keep looking around and staring at me for,is something wrong?"
It's a good idea to just have fun and dont freak out on your surroundings.
Uh,is it a sarcasion, or just a tip for the young lad?
pitstiff #101...
employees and players who look around for the 'stiff do so prior to making a "move".
eye contact, even a couple of times a session with the 'stiff, indicates a weak act. the skilled player must sense the 'stiff's position/attention, with no more than peripheral vision. if i do get incidental eye contact, i'll immediately go on offense, possibly whining about something, or mebbe badgering the 'stiff for some freebies. the "act" means that you are on stage, under the spotlight, in view of multiple game protection employees.
employees and players who look around for the 'stiff do so prior to making a "move".
eye contact, even a couple of times a session with the 'stiff, indicates a weak act. the skilled player must sense the 'stiff's position/attention, with no more than peripheral vision. if i do get incidental eye contact, i'll immediately go on offense, possibly whining about something, or mebbe badgering the 'stiff for some freebies. the "act" means that you are on stage, under the spotlight, in view of multiple game protection employees.
Sonny
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Boy Scout Blackjack
> One eye on the pit,one one the game and a two eyeballs on the door!?
> Pit boss.. "What the hell does this guy keep looking around and staring at
> me for,is something wrong?"
I don't think he was advocating "staring" at the pit bosses. There are numerous ways to observe people and events without ever looking directly at them (or without them knowing).
I happen to agree that it is crucial to "be aware" of your surroundings when you are playing. You must know when you are getting heat, what is causing it and what to do about it. Is your large bet spread giving you away, or was it a floorman that recognized you? You have to "feel out" each casino in order to know how much you can get away with before they cut you off.
Like the boys scouts say, "Be Prepared." When the pit bosses start circling like vultures on a dead weasel, you don't want to be running around trying to escape like an arsonist looking for a fire exit. You should know where the exits are and where the crowds tend to be. None of the above traits will make you look suspicious to the pit, but they could easily add to your longevity at any casino.
> It's a good idea to just have fun and dont freak out on your surroundings.
I wish more floormen had your attitude: "This guy has been winning black chips all day long. I know he's counting, but I'm not going to freak out about it." This kind of play may work for a red chip player, but anyone who wants to make decent money at this needs to have a solid Plan B.
It is important to not look suspicious (or, in this case, paranoind) while playing, but I think you have to be aware of you surroundings in order to be in control of them. If you can leave just before they get the chance to tap you on the shoulder then you are in control, not them. You have to play your game and still be one step ahead of their game. A good player should know how to do this without looking guilty.
-Sonny-
> One eye on the pit,one one the game and a two eyeballs on the door!?
> Pit boss.. "What the hell does this guy keep looking around and staring at
> me for,is something wrong?"
I don't think he was advocating "staring" at the pit bosses. There are numerous ways to observe people and events without ever looking directly at them (or without them knowing).
I happen to agree that it is crucial to "be aware" of your surroundings when you are playing. You must know when you are getting heat, what is causing it and what to do about it. Is your large bet spread giving you away, or was it a floorman that recognized you? You have to "feel out" each casino in order to know how much you can get away with before they cut you off.
Like the boys scouts say, "Be Prepared." When the pit bosses start circling like vultures on a dead weasel, you don't want to be running around trying to escape like an arsonist looking for a fire exit. You should know where the exits are and where the crowds tend to be. None of the above traits will make you look suspicious to the pit, but they could easily add to your longevity at any casino.
> It's a good idea to just have fun and dont freak out on your surroundings.
I wish more floormen had your attitude: "This guy has been winning black chips all day long. I know he's counting, but I'm not going to freak out about it." This kind of play may work for a red chip player, but anyone who wants to make decent money at this needs to have a solid Plan B.
It is important to not look suspicious (or, in this case, paranoind) while playing, but I think you have to be aware of you surroundings in order to be in control of them. If you can leave just before they get the chance to tap you on the shoulder then you are in control, not them. You have to play your game and still be one step ahead of their game. A good player should know how to do this without looking guilty.
-Sonny-