ladykiller
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Using Hi-Opt II w/ A side count, black chip play. Wondering what the top single deck places in downtown are to play; also what bet spread you've experienced to be without heat. Possibly, best times?
Good Downtown places in LV
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LV Bear
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Not sure if you're kidding
Single deck is all but extinct in Las Vegas.
Golden Nugget has two single deck tables with mediocre pen, usually dealt to Rule of 6, and Las Vegas Club is all single deck, pen varies by dealer. Short sessions are a must in both venues.
The only other single decks in las Vegas are low-level grind joints where skillful black chip play will not be tolerated for more than a few minutes, and/or the table maximums are so low you won't be able to get an adequate spread -- Four Queens, El Cortez, Gold Spike, Western, and Fiesta Rancho are the only other single deck games in las Vegas.
You will have to play shoes in Las Vegas.
Single deck is all but extinct in Las Vegas.
Golden Nugget has two single deck tables with mediocre pen, usually dealt to Rule of 6, and Las Vegas Club is all single deck, pen varies by dealer. Short sessions are a must in both venues.
The only other single decks in las Vegas are low-level grind joints where skillful black chip play will not be tolerated for more than a few minutes, and/or the table maximums are so low you won't be able to get an adequate spread -- Four Queens, El Cortez, Gold Spike, Western, and Fiesta Rancho are the only other single deck games in las Vegas.
You will have to play shoes in Las Vegas.
learning to count
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Re: Not sure if you're kidding
Both these guys are amatuers listen up kid go to the Horshoe and have at it! Make sure you hit all the 6/5 single deck games and show em some black action spirit! Oh yeah make sure you play at the Las Vegas Club. I saw a guy playing with ten grand in december. There is black action all downtown!!!! Oh are you looking for some great beach front property cheap? There are acres of it all around the valley. If your lucky I can find you a London Bridge in Arizona if you in the market for one cheap!
Both these guys are amatuers listen up kid go to the Horshoe and have at it! Make sure you hit all the 6/5 single deck games and show em some black action spirit! Oh yeah make sure you play at the Las Vegas Club. I saw a guy playing with ten grand in december. There is black action all downtown!!!! Oh are you looking for some great beach front property cheap? There are acres of it all around the valley. If your lucky I can find you a London Bridge in Arizona if you in the market for one cheap!
Automatic Monkey
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All sarcasm aside, it is unlikely you will get away with any black action in a SD game in Las Vegas. With the count you are using you can win with a minimal spread. Green you may be able to get away with for a while.
If you really want to play black, the SD game at the Barona outside San Diego is probably the best in the country. It has a $100 min so black action will obviously not be an issue. H17, DOA, DAS, LSR. For a 0.02% house advantage.
If you really want to play black, the SD game at the Barona outside San Diego is probably the best in the country. It has a $100 min so black action will obviously not be an issue. H17, DOA, DAS, LSR. For a 0.02% house advantage.
ladykiller
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My bad you jerks. I play LV shoes all the time at the top casinos, but wanted to get away from them for a while; getting a little too friendly with the floor personnel. I knew there were good rules in downtown, just didn't know what kind of heat to expect. Thanks for the replies. As regards Barona, I can only flat bet there becuase I live down here and began counting there and learned my lessons witht that place. Anyone know of anyhwere else in the US with a single deck game like Barona with their minimal amount of heat?
learning to count
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BlackJackHack
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>>Anyone know of anyhwere else in the US with a single deck game like Barona with their minimal amount of heat?
As a black player, you should know that nobody is going to identify a game on a public board as having a "minimal amount of heat." While it is perfectly appropriate to identify the rules, # of tables, etc., publicly disclosing low heat or heatless games is counterproductive. To get that sort of info, you just need to know people and exchange the info privately.
As for single deck games generally, the only place I know that offers single deck games and welcomes green and black action these days is Tunica, Mississippi. The games are certainly not heatless, though, so use proper discretion.
As a black player, you should know that nobody is going to identify a game on a public board as having a "minimal amount of heat." While it is perfectly appropriate to identify the rules, # of tables, etc., publicly disclosing low heat or heatless games is counterproductive. To get that sort of info, you just need to know people and exchange the info privately.
As for single deck games generally, the only place I know that offers single deck games and welcomes green and black action these days is Tunica, Mississippi. The games are certainly not heatless, though, so use proper discretion.
ladykiller
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I got a couple places in Las Vegas for double deck, hit me back: [email protected]
You want to play single deck, try off strip joints like the Stations. Locals love SD so these places will have the game to compete for the local crowd. The tourist doesn't have a clue for the most part so that is why you see so much shoe on the strip. The tourist would rather play 8-deck shoe because they want the cards dealt face up and the game made as easy for them as possible.
LV Bear
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Stations have no single deck, except one table *LINK*
You want to play single deck, try off strip joints like the Stations
Fiesta Rancho, a Station property, has one table, usually unplayable due to overcrowding, and only playable at low stakes when not overcrowded. No other Station properties have single deck games.
Club Fortune and Railroad Pass, which are small grind joints in Henderson, each have one table of single deck, with poor pen. Club Fortune has Reno rules, making the poorly-penetrated game even worse.
Other than the downtown places I mentioned in the post linked below, that's all there is. Reno has single decks aplenty, and Tunica has some.
You want to play single deck, try off strip joints like the Stations
Fiesta Rancho, a Station property, has one table, usually unplayable due to overcrowding, and only playable at low stakes when not overcrowded. No other Station properties have single deck games.
Club Fortune and Railroad Pass, which are small grind joints in Henderson, each have one table of single deck, with poor pen. Club Fortune has Reno rules, making the poorly-penetrated game even worse.
Other than the downtown places I mentioned in the post linked below, that's all there is. Reno has single decks aplenty, and Tunica has some.
Re: Stations have no single deck, except one table
Really? I was at Texas Station not too long ago and I'm virtually certain I saw an SD game. Are you including SF21 in your invetory of casinos with SD. I'm not calling you out and I am a fan of hallucinogens so perhaps I was seeing things, but next time you go to Fiesta Rancho you might want to stop by next door.
As far as only playing shoe in Vegas, Vegas has lots of DD. Not so much on the Strip where I work but I can assure you that the locals would not tolerate a stricly shoe casino.
Really? I was at Texas Station not too long ago and I'm virtually certain I saw an SD game. Are you including SF21 in your invetory of casinos with SD. I'm not calling you out and I am a fan of hallucinogens so perhaps I was seeing things, but next time you go to Fiesta Rancho you might want to stop by next door.
As far as only playing shoe in Vegas, Vegas has lots of DD. Not so much on the Strip where I work but I can assure you that the locals would not tolerate a stricly shoe casino.
LV Bear
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I did not include Superfun or 6 to 5 ploppy ripoff
Really? I was at Texas Station not too long ago and I'm virtually certain I saw an SD game. Are you including SF21 in your inventory of casinos with SD.
Texas Station has Superfun, but not single deck blackjack. No, I did not include Superfun, since it is a niche game that should not be played by a Las Vegas visitor unfamiliar with it. I obviously also did not include 6 to 5 ploppy rip-off as single deck blackjack.
As far as only playing shoe in Vegas, Vegas has lots of DD. Not so much on the Strip where I work but I can assure you that the locals would not tolerate a strictly shoe casino.
You are right about there being plenty of double decks, but most of the games are either so poorly penetrated as to make them worthless, or are so sweaty (Suncoast comes to mind) as to make them a waste of time for a visitor playing black chips, which was the level mentioned by the original poster.
By the way, Mr. Brillo, thank you for your polite, civil, and reasonable discussion in the tipping threads. You sound like one of the few dealers that I would respect. I suspect that if more dealers were like you, both sides of the table would be better off.
Really? I was at Texas Station not too long ago and I'm virtually certain I saw an SD game. Are you including SF21 in your inventory of casinos with SD.
Texas Station has Superfun, but not single deck blackjack. No, I did not include Superfun, since it is a niche game that should not be played by a Las Vegas visitor unfamiliar with it. I obviously also did not include 6 to 5 ploppy rip-off as single deck blackjack.
As far as only playing shoe in Vegas, Vegas has lots of DD. Not so much on the Strip where I work but I can assure you that the locals would not tolerate a strictly shoe casino.
You are right about there being plenty of double decks, but most of the games are either so poorly penetrated as to make them worthless, or are so sweaty (Suncoast comes to mind) as to make them a waste of time for a visitor playing black chips, which was the level mentioned by the original poster.
By the way, Mr. Brillo, thank you for your polite, civil, and reasonable discussion in the tipping threads. You sound like one of the few dealers that I would respect. I suspect that if more dealers were like you, both sides of the table would be better off.
Re: I did not include Superfun or 6 to 5 ploppy ripoff
I used to work at the Gold Coast and would recommend never playing at any Coast casino. I hard a horrible experience working there, having a sweating floor man up your ass at all times. Doing dice there is like being in boot camp. I can't believe they get the action that they do with all the staring and sweating. They get so worked up over losing a penny that I think it would be a real adventure to count there.
I used to work at the Gold Coast and would recommend never playing at any Coast casino. I hard a horrible experience working there, having a sweating floor man up your ass at all times. Doing dice there is like being in boot camp. I can't believe they get the action that they do with all the staring and sweating. They get so worked up over losing a penny that I think it would be a real adventure to count there.