Grand Unified Blackjack Archive

ArcticInferno

Well-Known Member
I bought a copy of Current Blackjack News, and it has been a disappointment.
CBJN has so much misinformation that it’s really useless.
It lists some casinos as having facial recognition system without confirmation.
Also, it says that some casinos share info with others, but not vice versa.
If one MGM casinos shares info, then why wouldn’t other MGM casinos?
The info regarding the number of tables, the min/max, etc.,
are wrong in some of the major casinos. How embarrassing,...
I’m assuming that CBJN doesn’t have reporters that scout the casinos.
Is it correct that readers and volunteers submit the information to CBJN?
Wizard of Odds has much more accurate information, and it’s free!
What do you think of a master listing that’s free, and contributed by all of us.
Either create a Wikipedia entry, or have it right here at BlackjackInfo.com.
We, the readers, would be the reporters, writers, editors, and critics of
the Grand Unified Blackjack Archive.
 

zengrifter

Banned
Several of CBJN's contributors are (or were) players who protect their own favorite games and/or full-time surveillance staffers who protect their own favorite games and/or those of their employers and/or purposely submit controlled disinformation.

Notwithstanding the above, I still find it more useful than the failed crowd-sourced and plageristic Trackjack. zg
 
Arctic

Nice thinking and worth discussion.:cool:

I wish this site had a page similar to GC, pay page, where one of the benefits is what you have descriped so well.

But to put that info on a free page,,,I have concerns.

Best to network with players here or attend some get togethers when they are held so you get to know other players. I and many others here, known to one another, are just a PM away from up to date locale conditions anywhere in the U.S.

CP
 

kewljason

Well-Known Member
ArcticInferno said:
I bought a copy of Current Blackjack News, and it has been a disappointment.
CBJN has so much misinformation that it’s really useless.
It lists some casinos as having facial recognition system without confirmation.
Also, it says that some casinos share info with others, but not vice versa.
If one MGM casinos shares info, then why wouldn’t other MGM casinos?
The info regarding the number of tables, the min/max, etc.,
are wrong in some of the major casinos. How embarrassing,...
I’m assuming that CBJN doesn’t have reporters that scout the casinos.
Is it correct that readers and volunteers submit the information to CBJN?
Wizard of Odds has much more accurate information, and it’s free!
What do you think of a master listing that’s free, and contributed by all of us.
Either create a Wikipedia entry, or have it right here at BlackjackInfo.com.
We, the readers, would be the reporters, writers, editors, and critics of
the Grand Unified Blackjack Archive.
In reading your posts both here and at BJ21, your frustration with CBJN is quite clear, but I think you are mising the value of CBJN. It should only be one tool in your arsenal. More or less a guide. It should not replace doing your own homework. I place CBJN behind my own scouting conditions as well as networking with others that I have found reliable over time.
 

paddywhack

Well-Known Member
kewljason said:
It should only be one tool in your arsenal. More or less a guide. It should not replace doing your own homework. I place CBJN behind my own scouting conditions as well as networking with others that I have found reliable over time.
Agree for local or occasionally visited stores or for places one can get firsthand info about. But becomes increasing important when traveling a greater distance looking for certain "minimum game criteria". Then, its value is directly related to its accuracy.
 

ArcticInferno

Well-Known Member
zengrifter said:
Several of CBJN's contributors are (or were) players who protect their own favorite games and/or full-time surveillance staffers who protect their own favorite games and/or those of their employers and/or purposely submit controlled disinformation.

Notwithstanding the above, I still find it more useful than the failed crowd-sourced and plageristic Trackjack. zg
Zengrifter, if your accusations are correct, then you would support a free listing that’s open to scrutiny.
By the way, I don’t believe your accusations.
For example, Belligio is listed as having $25 and lower tables. Would that truly discourage a $100 better?
If you’re playing black, then you’re already familiar with Bellagio and its reputation.
So how is the Bellagio game protected by such “disinformation”?
The listing is just plain wrong because they didn’t put enough effort into it.
Most of the misinformation is just that, a misinformation.
I don’t believe that there’s some master conspiracy at play.
 

ArcticInferno

Well-Known Member
Kewljason & Paddywhack, you’re both right.
On the East Coast, PA, NJ, & CT, I’m very familiar with all the casinos from personal experience.
But Las Vegas is different. I was trying to maximize my gain from the trip.
But after some thought, I don’t think it will matter.
I’ll be playing black at high-end casinos, and they all have similar conditions.
The minor rule variations won’t affect the final outcome much.
My best strategy would be to move around a lot.
A few hours, if that, at each casino, and hit the casinos at different shifts.
 

zengrifter

Banned
ArcticInferno said:
Zengrifter, if your accusations are correct, then you would support a free listing that’s open to scrutiny.
By the way, I don’t believe your accusations.
Those were not accusations, they were observations in composite spanning decades. I did not mean to imply that those things were the norm.

I like your wiki-concept. I would first attempt to do it with disclosure of the WOO's data to kick-off the data.

The idea could best be done under the auspices of BJINFO as another BJINFO open-source BJ Recon Wiki.

But who wants to share their best games publically?? Lets start with flashing dealers. zg
 
ArcticInferno said:
Kewljason & Paddywhack, you’re both right.
On the East Coast, PA, NJ, & CT, I’m very familiar with all the casinos from personal experience.
But Las Vegas is different. I was trying to maximize my gain from the trip.
But after some thought, I don’t think it will matter.
I’ll be playing black at high-end casinos, and they all have similar conditions.
The minor rule variations won’t affect the final outcome much.
My best strategy would be to move around a lot.
A few hours, if that, at each casino, and hit the casinos at different shifts.
It's probably less useful in LV because those are games you can easily get to in a short period of time and see for yourself.

It's much more useful for remote games, but then again it sucks to travel to a remote game and find it inaccurately listed.

I find the information accurate enough to make it worthwhile.

No free lunch.
 
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