Help with indices for KO please

p8ntballsk8r

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I play 6deck h17, doa, das, resplit AA and 5-5.5 deck pen.

can someone please give the indices for key and pivot point? again, I left my KO book at college.

I know key count the only indice is stay on 16 v 10.
I know insurance is pivot - 1, rc of 23.


My guesses on the pivot indices are: stay on 12 v 2 and v 3
stay on 16 v 9 and 15 v 10 then i dont' know what else.

Planning on backcounting and playing only +2 t/c (running count of 20 using KO.) and i'll see how I do. Spread will prolly be 1-3 just because my BR is small.
 

Mimosine

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p8ntballsk8r said:
I play 6deck h17, doa, das, resplit AA and 5-5.5 deck pen.
I know key count the only indice is stay on 16 v 10.
I know insurance is pivot - 1, rc of 23.
My guesses on the pivot indices are: stay on 12 v 2 and v 3
stay on 16 v 9 and 15 v 10 then i dont' know what else.
Planning on backcounting and playing only +2 t/c (running count of 20 using KO.) and i'll see how I do. Spread will prolly be 1-3 just because my BR is small.
i hear you.

pivot indices (RC = +4, irc = -20 for 6D) are:
15v10, 16v9, 12v3, 12v2, Doubles: 9v2, 9v7, 10v10, 10vA, 11vA (if you don't already play that as BS for a H17 game, which you should), 8v5, 8v6.
INS + 3
Key Count -4 16v10
you could wong in at key count and bet 1 unit (RC = -4), bet 2 units at RC = 0, and bet 3 units at +4.
 

rukus

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im not usually one to comment in the manner like i am about to do, BUT:

do you really think you are prepared to play in a casino environment if you dont know your indices cold?
 

p8ntballsk8r

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yea definately, only real problem is i'm under br'd so i have to stick to wonging at +2 (rc of 20). I went yesterday, dropped 20 units in 5 minutes because I was getting counts of 24+ midway through the shoe even tho I was only max betting at 3 units, caught a bad run.

Anyways later on after I cooled off and found a new table I hit a really nice bit of positive and won 95 units back so i'm up 75 units in about 2 hours of play and my friends and I decide to leave.

Counting is so frustrating to me when I'm with a group of friends and all the girls wanna do is slots , oh well just my story of last night, probably will go hit up the casino again and hopefully find some nice hot counts again
 
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