Hi/Lo and wager size

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Adobe

New Member
Hi,

Instead of using the true count to determine a proper bet size, is there any kind of ramp that would be built this way below using HI/LO:

1. say a running count is +12
2. say you have 2 decks in the discard tray
3. This gives a number of +24.

At this point can anything be done with the 24?

Another words build a ramp based on the running count and full decks in discard tray?

Ignore the fact that indices don't make sense here, meaning correct player actions, I am talking only bet size.

JP
 
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johndoe

Well-Known Member
If the running count is +12, and there are two decks left, the true count is +6 - you divide, not multiply.

The +6 gives you an estimate of your edge, which depends on the game; loosely 3% typically. This guides your bet size. (At +6TC you're almost certainly at your max bet.)

The ramp is designed to maximize your win rate within an acceptable risk of ruin, essentially betting proportional to advantage (or TC).
 
KenSmith

KenSmith

Administrator
Staff member
Adobe, I think you are asking if there is a way to use (RC * DecksSeen) instead of (RC / DecksUnseen) as a way of estimating advantage.

The reason that we use the latter is that the true count is a normalized estimate of high cards remaining per deck left. Using the alternate idea doesn't map directly onto anything. Yes, high numbers are better than low numbers and there is a correlation with your edge. But it doesn't map very well as an estimate.

Interesting idea though, perhaps it could be tweaked somehow.
 
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21gunsalute

Well-Known Member
Adobe said:
Hi,

Instead of using the true count to determine a proper bet size, is there any kind of ramp that would be built this way below using HI/LO:

1. say a running count is +12
2. say you have 2 decks in the discard tray
3. This gives a number of +24.

At this point can anything be done with the 24?

Another words build a ramp based on the running count and full decks in discard tray?

Ignore the fact that indices don't make sense here, meaning correct player actions, I am talking only bet size.

JP
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What if you have a running count of 12, 1/2 deck in? Multiply 12 by 5.5 and you get 66. 66 is 2.75 times 24. Are you going to bet 2.75 times higher when the true count is 2 early in the shoe than you would when the TC is 3 later on in the shoe?
 
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