House edge in Zen count

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diego199

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Hi everyone guys!!
I've started to use the zen count and I have some doubts,
Do I have to subtract the house edge to the true count? for example, I play bj in smartlive (live dealer), is european blackjack, I mean 0.62% edge, so I have to start my running count at zero and the true count -0.62%, Right?

Thank you!
 
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21gunsalute

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Huh? Don't play until you know what you are doing. I don't know anything about Zen count, but house edge has nothing to do with True Count. Why would you think that? That would be like subtracting the rate of inflation from yesterdays temperature to arrive at the windchill factor. :confused:
 
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21gunsalute

Well-Known Member
diego199 said:
Hi everyone guys!!
I've started to use the zen count and I have some doubts,
Do I have to subtract the house edge to the true count? for example, I play bj in smartlive (live dealer), is european blackjack, I mean 0.62% edge, so I have to start my running count at zero and the true count -0.62%, Right?

Thank you!
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I'd question playing this game also. That's a mighty high house advantage. I take it this is some kind of electronic game. How many decks do they use and how often do they shuffle?
 
zengrifter

zengrifter

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21gunsalute said:
Huh? Don't play until you know what you are doing. I don't know anything about Zen count, but house edge has nothing to do with True Count.
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It sounds like Diego is using the newer INFERIOR 1/4D "true edge" ZEN. zg
 
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diego199

Member
Hi guys,
It isn't an electronic game, is a live dealer, the house rules are as follows:
6 decks
Double on 9,10 & 11 only
No resplits
BJ pays 3 to 2
Dealer stands on soft 17
No double after split
No surrender

Formerly i've been using 1/4D "true edge" but now I use true count.
With this rules, How I calculate the advantage per each increase of 1?
 
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johnnyb

Well-Known Member
diego199 said:
Hi guys,
It isn't an electronic game, is a live dealer, the house rules are as follows:
6 decks
Double on 9,10 & 11 only
No resplits
BJ pays 3 to 2
Dealer stands on soft 17
No double after split
No surrender

Formerly i've been using 1/4D "true edge" but now I use true count.
With this rules, How I calculate the advantage per each increase of 1?
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None of what you're saying matters! Those rules are terrible. Find some other place and capitalize on it AFTER you know what you're doing.
 
zengrifter

zengrifter

Banned
diego199 said:
Hi guys,
It isn't an electronic game, is a live dealer, the house rules are as follows:
6 decks
Double on 9,10 & 11 only
No resplits
BJ pays 3 to 2
Dealer stands on soft 17
No double after split
No surrender

Formerly i've been using 1/4D "true edge" but now I use true count.
With this rules, How I calculate the advantage per each increase of 1?
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Each +1 = .29 increase. zg
 
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diego199

Member
What's the difference between real and online dealer? or are you so gullible to think that real casinos don't cheat the game?
 
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tthree

Banned
diego199 said:
What's the difference between real and online dealer? or are you so gullible to think that real casinos don't cheat the game?
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That's a good one. :laugh:

In case you seriously can't see a card game you can't watch first hand can be totally a fraud. There are only so many ways for a real game to cheat you.
 
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pit15

Well-Known Member
diego199 said:
What's the difference between real and online dealer? or are you so gullible to think that real casinos don't cheat the game?
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tell you what, give me 100 bucks thru paypal and i'll deal you the following game:

Blackjack pays 3:1
Dealer 21 is a bust
Player 16 automatically wins 1:1

We'll play over IM/phone and I'll tell you what cards get dealt and you have to take my word for it.
 
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diego199

Member
In smartlive live dealer you can see the dealer via webcam and all the hands, you can count the cards without any problem.
 
zengrifter

zengrifter

Banned
diego199 said:
In smartlive live dealer you can see the dealer via webcam and all the hands, you can count the cards without any problem.
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One scam is that they can fake a momentary server connection loss and when that happens the rule is that the system will force a stand decision. They only need that 2-3x per hour to garner a larger edge. zg
 
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