How accurate is that Card Counting Computer?

[Josh]

Hi. I was practicing the Hi-opt II system and planning on using it in a casino with the 6 deck shoes. Well, I came to your site and did a spread of 5 to 95 dollars with a 1 to 8 spread with double after splits and dealer stands on 17s. Well, I turned out to lose about 100,000 dollars. I did the simulation again with the same exact conditions and another loss happened. Because of this, I'm abandoning the hi-opt II count since there is no way I can add a sidecount of Aces in my count since it is hard enough as it is. I believe the results are fairly accurate because the same spread and conditions with the Hi-LO gave me a win of 100,000 or so. I've used Hi-Lo in simulations and done well but was looking for something with good playing efficiency. I've decided to stick with Hi-Lo but I want to thank you for the use of that computer because I would have gone and blown my money at a casino. Mayor, does that computer take any Indices into consideration? Also, does it simulate a player doubling on any two cards? I noticed it had an option for doubling after splits so that is where the question came from. Thanks.

 

[The Mayor]

I can only think that you have not run enough hands...

The computer is not a research tool, it is just for fun and has obvious flaws -- for example it uses one generic basic strategy for all play and doesn't change how it plays with the count. Another flaw, it does not use an optimal ramp for betting, it just wagers (true count)x(min bet) up to the max bet (or spread) you set.

Run it on 100,000,000 hands and see what you get. Or, post the exact parameters you are running it on and I'll try it myself.

--Mayor

 

[Josh]

I ran it for 10,000,000 hands and the hi-opt II count put me in the hole
-180,000 roughly. Conditions: 6 deck, 60% penetration, stand on 17s, wong out neg. counts--false, 5 to 95 dollars, 1 to 8 bet range. I think that hi-opt II count is bad for 6 decks. Sorry it took me so long to respond. I decided on the HI-lo and am now up about 24 units after about 8 hours of play at 3 different casinos. I did some backcounting. I sit out during bad negative counts as well. I have heard from others on message boards that hi-opt II wasn't good for 6 deck, too.