How do you beat this game?

Reachy

Member
Hi

These are the conditions in my local casino. I know they are really horrible but I'm in the UK and from what I can figure out these sorts of rules are fairly standard here. Not sure what the penetration is like and I can't seem to find any online edge calculator that can calculate for these specifics. Any idea what the house edge is and what sort of spread and other strategies I'd need to use to beat this game?

4 or 6 decks.
No hole card.
No surrender.
Dealer stands on soft 17.
Double 9, 10, 11 only.
No splitting 4s, 5s, or 10s.
Splitting Aces: one card only unless you get another Ace, which can be resplit.
Doubling after splitting allowed.
Unlimited resplitting allowed.
Insurance available only when you have blackjack

Thanks in advance.

Reachy
 

MGP

Well-Known Member
Here are the TD EV's (SPL3):

6D -0.5524%
4D -0.5063%

Don't know about the counting questions
 

dacium

Well-Known Member
Standard counting will beat the game easily.

The australian games are almost the same, but you can't resplit aces, but you can split 5's and 4's, house edge is about 0.58% were I play and its easily beaten on hi/low basic count without even modifying stategy.
 

Sonny

Well-Known Member
MGP said:
Here are the TD EV's (SPL3):

6D -0.5524%
4D -0.5063%
Wow, that's a lot better than I thought it would be! I thought that the D9 and no Insurance (except even money) would kill the player, but the house edge is pretty decent. I'm sure the insurance rule cuts a lot of EV for the counter, but it does look beatable.

Does anyone know the specifics of the no hole card rule in this case (lose all, original bets only, original bets + busts)?

-Sonny-
 

MGP

Well-Known Member
It's the resplitting of aces that helps since most games don't allow that and insurance doesn't effect TD play at all.
 

Reachy

Member
Thanks for the info

Thanks guys that's really helpful. I wasn't sure that it was beatable but we shall see what the heat is like. From what I've heard they can get very excited if you exhibit any sort of skill whatsoever so excellent camo will be required! I can do a very good drunk.

Cheers

Reachy
 

Sonny

Well-Known Member
MGP said:
...insurance doesn't effect TD play at all.
Ah, that's right. I keep forgetting that insurance doesn't change the house edge. In fact, not allowing insurance may actually be saving the ploppies money!

Unfortunately it hurts us counters quite a bit. :(

-Sonny-
 
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