How Long do you wait?

mjbballar23

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After being backed off from a joint, how long do you guys usually wait before you attempt to play there again?

Im faced with this situation and im currently planning on waiting 2 months til i go back again. Do you guys think that is enough time?
 

InPlay

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mjbballar23 said:
After being backed off from a joint, how long do you guys usually wait before you attempt to play there again?

Im faced with this situation and im currently planning on waiting 2 months til i go back again. Do you guys think that is enough time?


I came back the next day and played no trouble. (Mirage Las Vegas). Got thumped for going from $50 to $500 (DD). Plus I already had a good stack of their blacks.
 

mjbballar23

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InPlay said:
I came back the next day and played no trouble. (Mirage Las Vegas). Got thumped for going from $50 to $500 (DD). Plus I already had a good stack of their blacks.
How long were you able to play spreading like that before they backed you off?

I feel like i could have gone back the very next day but this is one of only a couple local joints and i feel like it if i wait long enough they will forget me and i will be able to continue to suck money from them in the future.
 

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mjbballar23 said:
How long were you able to play spreading like that before they backed you off?

I feel like i could have gone back the very next day but this is one of only a couple local joints and i feel like it if i wait long enough they will forget me and i will be able to continue to suck money from them in the future.
About 1 1/2 hours no trouble until the blacks started to stack up in front of me. I came back the next day with a players card no problem.
 

Ferretnparrot

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i went back on a different shift, and to top it off a shiftt hat i have NEVRE set foot in the casino during, about 50 days after a backoff, sat down and before they finished shuffling they apporached me asking me to play somewhere else

Im setting my new rule of thumb at 3-4 months to see how that goes
 

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EasyRhino said:
You had the same player's card when you returned as when you were backed of?!
Yep. The day before I had won $5,700. The next day I lost $7,000 so they were not worried about me.
 

EasyRhino

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That's interesting, as others have had their MGM Mirage permanent record marked up to where they are not welcome to play BJ at any other property.

So maybe you got backed off by someone who's bad at paperwork.
 

aslan

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EasyRhino said:
That's interesting, as others have had their MGM Mirage permanent record marked up to where they are not welcome to play BJ at any other property.

So maybe you got backed off by someone who's bad at paperwork.
I know a few eyes and they claim to have some latitude as to how they handle each case. For instance, they have discretion as to whether or not they put you in the Griffin book. If they size you up as small time, they might ask you not to play, but not hurt you any further. Sounds stupid, but that's what they told me. Also, they've told me they like to give someone they think is a counter one more chance, so they will wait until a return visit to evaluate their game one more time before they bar them. That also sounds stupid, but maybe they are not confident in their own counting ability, or they are afraid that your increased bets are inadvertently coincidental with the count. Who the hell knows what goes on in there minds. Seems like their focus is more on in-house thievery than card counters anyway, unless you're a high roller and a threat to win tens of thousands. Of course, if you are blatant in your counting/spreading, exercising no masking whatsoever, it's like saying,"Hey, I'm a counter. So what are you going to do about it?" If you back them into a corner, I'm afraid your days are numbered in that joint.
 

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EasyRhino said:
That's interesting, as others have had their MGM Mirage permanent record marked up to where they are not welcome to play BJ at any other property.

So maybe you got backed off by someone who's bad at paperwork.
It's probally because I give them a lot of action at the MGM in DETROIT. It's a standard six deck game. Never been backed off there.
 
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