how many at table to play.

i was reading in a bj book that in a 6 deck shoe game thet
you want a full seven players because you get deeper
penetration after the cut card comes out and the dealer
busts more when you go seven spots instead of playing
head to head w/the dealer. any comments.sourse is cutting
edge blackjace. by richard harvey. regards to all.
stevedicey.
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
If Harvey indeed said:
"the dealer busts more when you go seven spots"

then I suggest you buy another book.

--Mayor
 

LV Bear

Administrator
Richard Harvey books ... *LINK*

... are worthless ripoffs.

Avoid any books by Richard Harvey, John Patrick, Jerry Patterson, and Donald Dahl. Their books do not have mathematically valid strategies, and have a lot of misinformation and superstition.

Legitimate blackjack authors include Stanford Wong, Arnold Snyder, Don Schlesinger, Ian Andersen, Bryce Carlson, Olaf Vancura and Ken Fuchs. There are several others, but not with books that are currently available.

Here's a link for a source of worthwhile books and products.
 

Rutager

Member
I'm used to playing single deck games in the Reno area where the number of players at a table matters a lot.

However, what I don't know, is for a 6 deck game, does the number of people at the table affect your edge very much (other than number of hands per hour)?

The only time I ever really play 6 deck is when I'm am wonging like crazy, so I prefer places that are crowded enought that I can blend in.

Rutager
 

Rutager

Member
Well, just to be a devil's advocate...

The dealer DOES bust more with more players. The reason is because there are less times when every player busts out and the dealer doesn't have to play his hand.

Of course, this doesn't affect a player's advantage whatsoever and has no real affect on the game. But I thought I'd be the annoying one to nitpick. ;o)

Rutager
 

learning to count

Well-Known Member
Sounds like a Voodoo troll!

Listen you just had three Masters of the SCIENCE of advantage play try and advise you that the book is trash and the theory is voodoo. If you don't want to believe them that is your right. I suggest you read several of the books listed as resource material at this site and purchase them through a reputable dealer as the LVBear has suggested. After reading these books then try and learn the the theories involved. The problem with gamblers is that they are afraid to learn something new. Granted the theory of card counting was developed by PHD intellects, but there has been thousands of pages, if not millions, of "how to books" and other documents of how to count cards. The first inclination given that a book is full of shite is that they make it seem so easy and they make comments that are based on playing experience and not mathmatical evaluation. A good book to see the mathmatics behind advantage play is BlackJack Attack second edition by Don Schlesinger. It is an incredible source material if not an eye opener education. SO be it! STOP THE VOODOO! SAY NO TO HUNCHES! GIVE COUNTING A CHANCE! LTC
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
I believe you are right, sir. But the dealer only busts more because he is forced to play out his hand. Of the hands played out, the number is just about the same, regardless.
 

Rutager

Member
Re: Sounds like a Voodoo troll!

Geez... calm down...

I was just being a smart a$$ and pointing out that the sentence "the dealer busts more when you go seven spots" is technically true.

However, I am well aware that this has no effect on the game and an author that tries to pass this stuff off as 'stategy' should be chained to a 6:5 bj table and forced to play for the rest of his life.

I've been called a lot of things in my life, but I think it's safe to say that this is the first time I've been called a 'voodoo troll'. :eek:)

Rutager
 
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