How valuable is promotion?

[Cardcounter]

The ****** has this chase the Ace promotion where you get a coupon each time that you get an blackjack you get a coupon get four coupons and you get first card is an ace on the hand of your choice! If I can bet big on my first card is an ace coupon how valuable is it to me?

 

[rollem411]

I just got finsihed reading a book on scamming casinos of there money. I'm not planning on doing anything illegal, it is just very interesting on how some people pulled it off. In one chapter of marking the cards in blackjack, it says that you have a 58% increase over the house if you KNOW an Ace is coming. I'm not sure how reliable the information is, so if someone else can back me on that it would be good.

 

[RJT]

I just got finsihed reading a book on scamming casinos of there money. I'm not planning on doing anything illegal, it is just very interesting on how some people pulled it off. In one chapter of marking the cards in blackjack, it says that you have a 58% increase over the house if you KNOW an Ace is coming. I'm not sure how reliable the information is, so if someone else can back me on that it would be good.

It's closer to 51% on the hand.

RJT.

 

[Sonny]

That promotion sounds familiar...

http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=3485

-Sonny-

 

[KenSmith]

This one is different from the Plaza. If you can bet big on the Ace hand, then this can be quite valuable. You'll average getting one Ace coupon every 84 hands or so (4 blackjacks). Let's say you are allowed to raise your bet ten-fold when you play the coupon hand. That's 51% X 10 = 5.1 extra units per 84 hands.
Betting $10 for 84 hands, and $100 on the 85th hand on average, this promo adds $51 on expectation over $940 in action, for a boost of 5.4%.

Even if you are required to flat-bet, this is worth 0.6%.

Do you know the betting limits for the promo?

 

[Cardcounter]

Casino rules without promotion are bad!

The game I would play is h17 double down on 10-11 only with 2 decks so you kind of start of with lousy rules. A .81% disadvantage. But the chase the ace promotion makes it playable even if I can only flat bet! If I bet $10 a hand on most hands and $500 when I have the coupon I could crush the game. But I don't know if that is allowed though. But even if I can only bet what I bet when I won the coupons a could could the house advantage to pretty low.

 

[Guynoire]

If you can bet a decent amount on those first ace hands you might try buying the coupons from other players.

 

[EasyRhino]

If the casino lets you bet up the "first ace" hand a lot, then you're probably best off not revealing the casino.

Even if they limit you to the same bet as you've been doing before, it's still a nifty little promotion.

 

[Cardcounter]

Not as good as I thought!

The promotion is at the biltmore and I got a few details of the promotion wrong. You have to get 5 blackjacks to get the free ace coupon and you can only bet $5 when you have the free ace even though the table limits are $10-$500! kind of crappy promotion that does not make up for there ridiculiously tight rules.

 

[EasyRhino]

The max bet on the free ace being EVEN LOWER than the table minimum makes it incredibly douchey.

 

[rollem411]

I would rip the shite coupon in half to prove a point

 

[shadroch]

Any promotion is a good promotion. If they give you a coupon after 5 BJs,its still better than what you'd get in 99% of the casinos.Perhaps it's not worth a great deal,but it is better than nothing.

 

[suicyco maniac]

Any promotion is a good promotion.

Although I agree with you that this Biltmore promo is better then nothing especially if you were already playing that game. I would however have to disagree that Any promo is a good promo. I once saw a casino promo where after receiving a Blackjack you could either take the 3:2 payout or you could roll some dice and depending on what the dice rolled your BJ would be paid out according to a chart on the pit podium. As it turned out if you chose to roll the dice you effectively got shorted on your BJ payout. Sure there was a payout or two that was more then 3:2 but when you added all the payouts it was worse then a 6:5 game.