I18 with surrender

dude

Member
How can I find the basic (I18 or likewise) strategy variations for a game that allows late surrender? For example, two of the most important I18 variations are 16 v. 10 at 0 and 15 v. 10 at 4. However, what if the basic strategy for your game says to late surrender on on 16 v. 9, 10 and A, and to surrender 15 v. 10? How do you use the I18 properly there?

Thanks.
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
These come up all the time ... huge count, you're dealt A,2 vs. the dealer's T. Natuarally you don't surrender. You're dealt a 3, then a T, for a holding of A,2,3,T. Count says to stand. So, yes, both the I-18 and the LSR come in to play, and are not redundant.

--Mayor
 

V-man

Active Member
Re: I18 + F4

Beside the I18 ie the 18 palying indices, Don also add the 4 surrender indices called 'Fabulous 4'. These are 14 vs 10, 15 vs 9, 15 vs 10 and 15 vs A with indices 3, 2, 0 and 1 respectively. Note that these indices are not the same set where BS suggest surrender (except 15 vs 10)
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
I'm a bit lazy right now

But it is a great idea. Adding LSR to the board numbers would be a worthwhile addition. LSR is a great tool for the advantage player.

--Mayor
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
Re: I18 + F4

Yes, you use the indices for the 4 you mentioned, but you still surrender 16 Vs. T, A. That is a basic strategy play for which no index is necessary.
 
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