I'm thinking of conducting a study

[Thunder]

on whether it's possible to beat 6 deck S17 AC blackjack without utilizing any form of counting, shuffle tracking, ace sequencing, cheating, progression scheme or hole carding in the long run. I will only be using social engineering, and comp hustling and will be flat betting. Basically something that a newbie BJ player who only knows basic strategy can do. Does anyone here know if this study has already been done? I'm guessing the closest thing to it would be Beyond Counting by Grosjean but I'm not sure. Obviously it would be impossible to sim this so if it hasn't been yet, I would need to do live trials in the casino. If it turns out that one can already beat it alone with comp hustling which in my experience, I'd think is quite possible, I'd probably just focus on social engineering.

 

[Automatic Monkey]

on whether it's possible to beat 6 deck S17 AC blackjack without utilizing any form of counting, shuffle tracking, ace sequencing, cheating, progression scheme or hole carding in the long run. I will only be using social engineering, and comp hustling and will be flat betting. Basically something that a newbie BJ player who only knows basic strategy can do. Does anyone here know if this study has already been done? I'm guessing the closest thing to it would be Beyond Counting by Grosjean but I'm not sure. Obviously it would be impossible to sim this so if it hasn't been yet, I would need to do live trials in the casino. If it turns out that one can already beat it alone with comp hustling which in my experience, I'd think is quite possible, I'd probably just focus on social engineering.

The comps suck in AC, you can surely not beat it with comp hustling alone.

Now social engineering, that depends on you and the depths which you are willing to stoop to!

But I'm not sure why you would want to eschew counting. Why not, you can social engineer and count and spread too, no?

 

[Thunder]

Am, If you consider free food, and maybe a slot dollar here or there, it might just be possible for low stakes players, granted it was a lot easier a few years ago. As for social engineering, I wouldn't do anything that was unethical. I would just be doing the study out of curiosity's sake to see if it's possible to be done. Of course if I'm playing BJ solely for the money, then yes, I'd use everything in my bag of tricks. But this is just for research purposes since I believe if there's any side of BJ that hasn't been thoroughly examined, it's this one. Maybe a book can come out of my findings, who knows. One question to be examined is how do you differentiate social engineering from scavenger play. Is scavenger play a form of it?

 

[Automatic Monkey]

Am, If you consider free food, and maybe a slot dollar here or there, it might just be possible for low stakes players, granted it was a lot easier a few years ago. As for social engineering, I wouldn't do anything that was unethical. I would just be doing the study out of curiosity's sake to see if it's possible to be done. Of course if I'm playing BJ solely for the money, then yes, I'd use everything in my bag of tricks. But this is just for research purposes since I believe if there's any side of BJ that hasn't been thoroughly examined, it's this one. Maybe a book can come out of my findings, who knows. One question to be examined is how do you differentiate social engineering from scavenger play. Is scavenger play a form of it?

Social engineering is a tool used in scavenger play. Because scavenger plays are so profitable, it's always better to keep yourself on good terms with your table mates. It might be better to play ploppy strategy on small bets to avoid antagonizing the whale betting $1K per hand next to you, who might let you go down with him on a 10% advantage move.