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Dopple

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Hope you don't mind so many posts. I have a rare trip planned and I am studying alot for it.

I plan on doing some serious study of my UAPC index numbers for mostly hard soft doubling and here is why.

I can see going into a sdeck with a dime ride to 20 and ride to 40 and then with a high count and a double option I am looking at 8x times my standard betting unit or actually 16x because I plan to hop in for 10 since you are almost heads up out the gate in sd and then drop to 5 for 0 or neg counts.

There are alot of excellent double plays to be made at counts from 3-9 like A8 or a9 vs the stiffs or double 7 against the stiffs.

I really appreciate the feedback I get from the group here.
 

jack.jackson

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Dopple said:
Hope you don't mind so many posts. I have a rare trip planned and I am studying alot for it.
I dont mind. Post all you want:)


Dopple said:
I plan on doing some serious study of my UAPC index numbers for mostly hard soft doubling and here is why.

I can see going into a sdeck with a dime ride to 20 and ride to 40 and then with a high count and a double option I am looking at 8x times my standard betting unit or actually 16x because I plan to hop in for 10 since you are almost heads up out the gate in sd and then drop to 5 for 0 or neg counts.

There are alot of excellent double plays to be made at counts from 3-9 like A8 or a9 vs the stiffs or double 7 against the stiffs.

I really appreciate the feedback I get from the group here.
Not exactly sure, what it is your asking, but the APC is a good system for single and double deck, but the ace sidecount for betting must be implemented correctly, even then you lose a little because you hardly ever are able to tell exactly when 13 cards have been played(1:13)

There are however,when your ready, a few ace-params that make a big difference on paticular hands, INS, and 11 vs 10 starting as the most important.
Also if you add a secondary for betting(A-4,8-1 vs 2,3,4,5,6 +1) you can enhance you BC to .997

If you plan on doing alot of wonging, then I suggest an ace-reckoned count. For these handle great accuracy for betting + as a hidden bonus, have remarkable accuracy for those high end plays, such as doubling 9 vs 2,7,8,
10vsX,A(8vs3,4,5,6) A8,A9, vs bust, Splitting X's and a pair of 99s and so on.

So depending on how important your money is to you, its always best to have as much knowledge as possible. Oh and good luck!
 

Dopple

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There are however,when your ready, a few ace-params that make a big difference on paticular hands, INS, and 11 vs 10 starting as the most important.
Also if you add a secondary for betting(A-4,8-1 vs 2,3,4,5,6 +1) you can enhance you BC to .997


I am afraid I dont follow this. What are ace params? All I know is UAPC but I know it pretty well and I like how it works for me.

A secondary is a secondary count apart from the separate ace count?
 

jack.jackson

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Dopple said:
There are however,when your ready, a few ace-params that make a big difference on paticular hands, INS, and 11 vs 10 starting as the most important.
Also if you add a secondary for betting(A-4,8-1 vs 2,3,4,5,6 +1) you can enhance you BC to .997


I am afraid I dont follow this. What are ace params? All I know is UAPC but I know it pretty well and I like how it works for me.

A secondary is a secondary count apart from the separate ace count?
Ace-params are certain plays, that give you better accuracy on paticular-hands, depending on the surplus or shortage of these cards(aces) and depending on the hand, they usually carry a different magnitude of value.

For example, the UAPC, has a IC of .90 but, if you add +1 for every xtra ace you see, you can bring your IC up to .92(and of course -1 for every ace your short.)
Another example of ace-params for the UAPC is to add +4 for every XTRA ace you see for hands of 11 vs 7,8,9,X(But, -4 10vs10)
Note: if your short 1 ace, do the opposite for the hands above.

Some counters skip ace-parameters all together,but for every surplus or shortage of aces,they see, they simply add or subtract 1 into their main count to enhance the overall performance of the PE. By doing so(this way) you can bring the PE. from .69 to .70(I call this method, sub-param)

Then by adding a couple of the most important ace-params into the mix, you could probably enhance your PE from .72 to .74(never mix the two methods together) in a single calculation.

Then we have a secondary count(recommended to use w/another person) for this is virtually impossible to use solo. This count is seperate from the main count(aces can still be sidecounted) and then the two counts would be added together for betting decisions.

I actually regret bringing this up, because it can get pretty complicated. But nevertheless, if your a innovating thinker like me and learn your stategy down cold. Refinement like this can always enhance your game and be added later on.
 
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