Insurance for less?

Cardcounter

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Your counting down the deck and you no that insurance bet is favorable you have $25 bet is it smart to insure for $10 covering $20 of your bet rather than insuring for the full $12.50. The pit might think if he knew the dealer had blackjack why wouldn't he insure for the full amount. Plus the dealer calls out insurance for less. Plus if you have a bad hand insuring for just under your full bet seems to draw less heat from the pit than insuring for the full amount. Dealers sometime ask me how come you don’t insure a 20 but you do sometimes insure a 16 or 17. My answer to the dealer I had a “gut” felling that you had a blackjack.
 

xxrenegadexx

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i havent tried it yet...... but next time i go to a casino i was thinking of taking insurance every time only for a dollar until the count was great and insuring the full amount. I figure it will make me look like another moron taking insurance for a buck
 

EasyRhino

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My usual goal with insurance in a big bet is to get it out there and quickly and with as little drama as possible. I'm not going to monkey with making change for $2.50.

However, if this invokes an "insurance for less" call (which I only hear in some places), then at least that means you could... if you really needed the cover, take insurance in neutral/negative counts for truly tiny amounts, and still get the same "moron" call to the floor.
 

ihate17

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Get the insurance bet out fast or perhaps slow is better

Years ago, sitting at a table with several other players and a dealer who did everything at lightening speed, she quickly took it for granted that I was standing on soft 18 vs her stiff while I was picking up chips to double. She gives the next guy a 6, so I say nothing and let the hand play out, but now I want to see if I can gain an advantage from her speed.
Few minutes later she shows an ace, I put a finger partially up, as if asking her to wait, she does not and before I can get an insurance bet together, she has checked and did not have it.
Now I am pretty sure that if she shows an ace when I have a big bet out, I can get away with no risk insurance (much better than no fault insurance). So in a high count and at a time where I throw out a weird bet of black, green and red for about $415, she shows an ace. I put up that finger quickly again and start going to my chips to try and find half the amount I bet. While doing this she has already turned her blackjack. I tell her that I put up a finger telling her to hold on and was counting out the chips. Player to my right tells her he saw the finger, she calls the pit. Here comes the dual rate with 42 seconds of customer satisfaction experience and he says I should have said something loud and clear. I tell him I could have been a mute, but I will not argue with you, get your boss or tell someone to run the tape. Boss comes over, hears the story and honors my insurance.

Dealer now looks at everyone when asking for insurance and I would not reccommend doing this too often in the same place, but with a big bet and a to fast for their own good dealer, you can sometimes get risk free insurance and a double down card that you can see before you get it (because she passed you by and gave it to the next player)

ihate17
 

Kasi

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xxrenegadexx said:
but next time i go to a casino i was thinking of taking insurance every time only for a dollar until the count was great and insuring the full amount. I figure it will make me look like another moron taking insurance for a buck
I don't even think I've seen one moron take insurance every time for $1 :)

Alot of cheaper ways to look like a moron I suspect.
 
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