learning to count
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The heat is hot. The games suck. When you do find a good game and you start to take the advantage they back you off or change the rules. What gives?
Is there a future for card counting?
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Sonny
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For some people
I am able to achieve the same hourly win rate as my day job, so it seems to be good supplemental income. I'm sure that I would never be able to get away with it full time, but the weekend hit-and-run approach works out for me pretty well. There's money out there for the taking, but they don't make it easy.
-Sonny-
I am able to achieve the same hourly win rate as my day job, so it seems to be good supplemental income. I'm sure that I would never be able to get away with it full time, but the weekend hit-and-run approach works out for me pretty well. There's money out there for the taking, but they don't make it easy.
-Sonny-
phantom007
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The FUTURE may be BRIGHT!!!........
Forgive me for playing DEVIL's ADVOCATE, but please consider:
1. In circa. 1964, just before Thorp's Publication, there were what, maybe 50 casinos (my estimate), and with #2-50 BJ tables each (presume ave. #20 each, again my estimate), and IF #7 Seats each, there were about #7000 places (SEATS) to play BJ, and ALL WERE CONVIENTLY LOCATED IN NEVADA!
2. Compare to 2005, in my Home State, there are 11 Stores...IF #6 Seats each, ave. #12 BJ Tables each...11 x 6 x 12 = #782 SEATS to play BJ in my LOCALE!
Add in Tunica (closer to me than many State Stores)....maybe #800+ Seats. Then add-in Illinois, Kansas, etc......circa. #2000+ seats in Less Distance, Less Time, and MUCH LESS EXPENSE than going to NEVADA.
3. Granted, the pre-Thorp "Deal until time to Shuffle" days are gone, but as you know, some GOOD games are still out there. Likewise, 6D ("What the Pro's Play"), is now standard. So AP's/CC's learn to Wong (or Dong)...Stores respond with no Mid-Shoe Entry....so AP's/CC's learn to ST....stores respond with ever-more complicated shuffles, BTW, TIME-CONSUMING!...Therefore, BJ TAKE DROPS, and thus, stores revert back to a Simple Technique...Now, even a ST'ing Novice like me can cut those LITTLE ONES out of play. GRIN!
4. HEAT SUCKS! That said, in retrospect, in my own Back-Offs, I ALWAYS SAW IT COMING...Dealer told PC "Put 3B under Survll.", PC watching me for 2 hours straight, etc. Had I have followed LVBear's Double-Up or 45-Min. RULE, I would still be a welcome guest at ALL Stores.
5. MORE HEAT! In 1964, if you were thought to be Cheating, you would likely be BEAT-UP! In 2005, if you are CC'ing, you will likely be "BACKED-OFF".
6. BJ has to have a chance to be BEATABLE, for even PLOPPIES to play...case-in-point....BJ Rule Changes in the weeks following Thorp's publication. Well, not TOTALLY TRUE, but you get my drift! A few winners here-and-there, i.e., CC's/AP's ARE GOOD FOR THE GAME....AND GREAT FOR THE CASINO's!!!
7. The 6:5 MONSTER is NOT the fault of the Casino's.....BLAME THE BOOKS! Most BJ Ploppies have read a "book-or-two", and KNOW that SD odds (usually) are better than 2D, 6D, etc.)...so THEY play this game with RECKLESS ABANDON!
Should CC's/AP's play this game.....YES, if they will allow an 8-10:1 SPREAD!
AND, HELL YES, if you can get Carlson's "RENO SHUFFLE"!
LTC, just some thoughts. But DAMN, would not you like to be welcomed to sit down to a deeply-dealt SD game, with no HEAT?!
Phantom007.
Forgive me for playing DEVIL's ADVOCATE, but please consider:
1. In circa. 1964, just before Thorp's Publication, there were what, maybe 50 casinos (my estimate), and with #2-50 BJ tables each (presume ave. #20 each, again my estimate), and IF #7 Seats each, there were about #7000 places (SEATS) to play BJ, and ALL WERE CONVIENTLY LOCATED IN NEVADA!
2. Compare to 2005, in my Home State, there are 11 Stores...IF #6 Seats each, ave. #12 BJ Tables each...11 x 6 x 12 = #782 SEATS to play BJ in my LOCALE!
Add in Tunica (closer to me than many State Stores)....maybe #800+ Seats. Then add-in Illinois, Kansas, etc......circa. #2000+ seats in Less Distance, Less Time, and MUCH LESS EXPENSE than going to NEVADA.
3. Granted, the pre-Thorp "Deal until time to Shuffle" days are gone, but as you know, some GOOD games are still out there. Likewise, 6D ("What the Pro's Play"), is now standard. So AP's/CC's learn to Wong (or Dong)...Stores respond with no Mid-Shoe Entry....so AP's/CC's learn to ST....stores respond with ever-more complicated shuffles, BTW, TIME-CONSUMING!...Therefore, BJ TAKE DROPS, and thus, stores revert back to a Simple Technique...Now, even a ST'ing Novice like me can cut those LITTLE ONES out of play. GRIN!
4. HEAT SUCKS! That said, in retrospect, in my own Back-Offs, I ALWAYS SAW IT COMING...Dealer told PC "Put 3B under Survll.", PC watching me for 2 hours straight, etc. Had I have followed LVBear's Double-Up or 45-Min. RULE, I would still be a welcome guest at ALL Stores.
5. MORE HEAT! In 1964, if you were thought to be Cheating, you would likely be BEAT-UP! In 2005, if you are CC'ing, you will likely be "BACKED-OFF".
6. BJ has to have a chance to be BEATABLE, for even PLOPPIES to play...case-in-point....BJ Rule Changes in the weeks following Thorp's publication. Well, not TOTALLY TRUE, but you get my drift! A few winners here-and-there, i.e., CC's/AP's ARE GOOD FOR THE GAME....AND GREAT FOR THE CASINO's!!!
7. The 6:5 MONSTER is NOT the fault of the Casino's.....BLAME THE BOOKS! Most BJ Ploppies have read a "book-or-two", and KNOW that SD odds (usually) are better than 2D, 6D, etc.)...so THEY play this game with RECKLESS ABANDON!
Should CC's/AP's play this game.....YES, if they will allow an 8-10:1 SPREAD!
AND, HELL YES, if you can get Carlson's "RENO SHUFFLE"!
LTC, just some thoughts. But DAMN, would not you like to be welcomed to sit down to a deeply-dealt SD game, with no HEAT?!
Phantom007.
learning to count
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DEEP AND NO HEAT! . Who wouldn't!
I tried e-mailing you send me your e-mail address.
I tried e-mailing you send me your e-mail address.
phantom007
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phantom007's e-Mail address.....
LTC:
Divorce and Move have forced me to cancel the old [email protected] address....well, actually, I did not cancel, just after the "ex parte'", SATAN stopped making payments to the "Family Account" at AOL.
Anyhow, my new/current e-mail address is:
[email protected]
.......short for "Rich Love Los Angeles"....once I am FREE, LA is an OPTION! Close commute to LV, and after Divorce, once House sells, and hopefully with NO Alimony, and Less Child Support, WILL BE LIKE GETTING A #50-60 Black-a-month RAISE!
Otherwise, somewhere, I still have your phone #, or was it your cousins? Whatever, will give it a ring in a day or two....just signed up for US Cellular's 800 Minutes/Month Plan, and NATIONWIDE!
Got to call somebody....therefore, I will call you!
GRIN!
phantom007
LTC:
Divorce and Move have forced me to cancel the old [email protected] address....well, actually, I did not cancel, just after the "ex parte'", SATAN stopped making payments to the "Family Account" at AOL.
Anyhow, my new/current e-mail address is:
[email protected]
.......short for "Rich Love Los Angeles"....once I am FREE, LA is an OPTION! Close commute to LV, and after Divorce, once House sells, and hopefully with NO Alimony, and Less Child Support, WILL BE LIKE GETTING A #50-60 Black-a-month RAISE!
Otherwise, somewhere, I still have your phone #, or was it your cousins? Whatever, will give it a ring in a day or two....just signed up for US Cellular's 800 Minutes/Month Plan, and NATIONWIDE!
Got to call somebody....therefore, I will call you!
GRIN!
phantom007
learning to count
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call! we plans for an AP adventure