Sonny said:
Well let's put it this way. I could write a blackjack book. It would be based on sound mathematics and emphasize the importance of game selection, adequate spreads and diligent habits at the table. It would give a realistic picture of what a player can expect from the game. This bokk would be much like a dozen or so BJ books out there, all of them saying basically the same thing, and it would be marketed to people who are rational and careful with money as card counters tend to be.SPX said:Yeah, I've heard that before. So why would a smart guy like Patterson abandon counting if he didn't at least believe that there was merit to Target 21? I assume he has seen significant results to go to such lengths.
Almost? Sounds like he hasn't.SPX said:I understand he's a controversial figure, but from what I've read he's almost made some significant contributions to the game.
Snyder's article was written in 1983. If Patterson is still selling TARGET, it's unlikely he still hasn't figured out after 24 years that it's NFG. There is not even one legitimate BJ researcher or author who supports it.SPX said:Sounds like the debate is over whether Patterson believes in his system and is an honest guy or is just trying to make a buck. Snyder, in his article, seems to believe the former. Who knows.
I have absolutely no idea what his system claims to achieve but it could very well be the truth.SPX said:Sounds like the debate is over whether Patterson believes in his system and is an honest guy or is just trying to make a buck. Snyder, in his article, seems to believe the former. Who knows.
Kasi said:I have absolutely no idea what his system claims to achieve but it could very well be the truth.
Obviously he wants to make a buck.
If I told u you could win 10 units 98.7% of the time with a 1000 unit bankroll, would u believe me? Would u buy it?
That depends on what happens the other 1.3%...Kasi said:If I told u you could win 10 units 98.7% of the time with a 1000 unit bankroll, would u believe me? Would u buy it?
I'm nobody. It's not my system. It's public knowledge.SPX said:Yeah, but while I'm sure you're a skilled player, the real question regarding your system is "Who are you?" Jerry Patterson, as we've mentioned, was at least at one time a very respected blackjack player and teacher, even among the 'greats' like Snyder.
Exactly!ScottH said:That depends on what happens the other 1.3%...
He was the first to publish info on shuffle-tracking, but his info was FLAWED - he saw Ace-rich decks as BAD FOR PLAYERS because "dealers would bust less".Kasi said:It is because Jerry Patterson is a respected player that I'm guessing whatever claims he makes about his system are true. Just a guess though because I have no clue what his system is or what claims he makes about it.
zengrifter said:I am told that he may have lost credibilty in dice-control also, if there is such a thing. zg
Kasi said:I'm nobody. It's not my system. It's public knowledge.
Apparently you didn't believe my claims because they sounded outrageous or "too good to be true", which is what I intended, even though they are true and can be performed by a 10 year old with no skill whatsoever. Which pretty much sums up my opinion of my own skill level.
Note that I did not say that you will become rich using the system or will be a guaranteed winner in the "long run". In fact, just as obviously, you won't.
It is because Jerry Patterson is a respected player that I'm guessing whatever claims he makes about his system are true. Just a guess though because I have no clue what his system is or what claims he makes about it.
Thanks for sparing me having to read it then.zengrifter said:He was the first to publish info on shuffle-tracking, but his info was FLAWED - he saw Ace-rich decks as BAD FOR PLAYERS because "dealers would bust less".
He sold a system called TARGET which was totally unscientific. He lost all credibility in BJ and moved on to dice-control.
The article above is preposterous, implying him to be a pioneer-of-pioneers of BJ.
I am told that he may have lost credibilty in dice-control also, if there is such a thing. zg