Hi Lo I believe has been around longer. A lot of studies and literature around regarding Hi Lo. I guess you can call it the benchmark.Nuh-vad-uh said:
Actually, KO is not better. The 7 doesn't have nearly as strong of an effect of removal, and the count is unbalanced, so it causes you to underbet at the beginning of a shoe, and underbet late.Nuh-vad-uh said:
That should be overbet at the end of a shoe. But, their are ways around that. You can true count it, or, make adjustments to your ramp accordingly. Unless you are planning on using more advanced techniques, KO, KISS, or Red 7 would be a wise choice for a beginner. But yes, hi-lo is clearly the benchmark system.
Just wondering on a couple of your comments callipygian; To even suggest shuffle tracking to a newcomer who does not even have bs down pat, is like asking a high school player to take on Michael Jordan. The kid might have a huge upside; looks like he may move on to the next level even. But to mention to him prematurely that he will have to match up against a seasoned pro, is a bit much. Challenging him to master the fundamentals FIRST,then when the time is right, introduce him to more advanced skills seems to me to serve him better. Also, a book for $10-$15 makes it too hard to learn an unbalanced count? Renzeys book on KISS III, the Bishops Blackbelt in Blackjack for the Red 7 count, or KO seems like a small price to pay for knowledge that will get you well on your way as a counter. If someone is serious about learning advanced skills, switching to a balanced count would be a breeze. Lets make sure we instill the mind set of work ethic that will allow the newcomer to master the fundamentals of the game, so she/he does not get frustrated with this game, and inevitably give up. Im not saying unbalanced is the way to go; if you can learn hi-lo easy enough fom the get go, good for you. But for most I would think, an unbalanced count is like training wheels for the first time bike rider-lets you feel like you can do it !callipygian said:
