Las Vegas Trip -

What a weekend I had...went out to Vegas for my brother's 21st bday (im only a year older, so its all good...), and just had a phenomenal time. Played 12 hours of blackjack in 2 days, plus took full advantage of Sin City's nightlife....

The Hard Rock gave both my friend and I a tremendous memory. Hard Rock is an 8-decker, H17, DAS, etc., and we were playing $15 hands. I have never seen a shoe take off so fast - i hit a running count of +27 using hi-lo with 3.5-4 decks left. Seeing this occur, we spread out to 4 hands, 2 of them playing $50 and 2 of them playing $60. We really were playing $5 units, but wanted to play the $15 table, so the count warranted the spread. Suffice to say, we ended up with 6 hands on the table, thanks to a few splits, and doubled on a bunch of those hands. We had approx. $700 on the table, with 4 hands of 20 and 2 hands of 19, with the dealer showing a 6. Now of course, my friend was pretty twisted and I was sippin on alcohol, but I kept a perfect count....I was so excited inside that I stood up and started screaming as we were doubling...we drew a crowd...it was tremendous...and then...the dealer pulled the card we REALLY needed, a f*ckin 5. You know what came next, a beautiful face card, removing all the chips from our sight into Hard Rock's chip collection...

What a nice hit that was - a moment of pure shock. Suddenly, I felt so stupid, but after winning about half of it back by the end of the shoe, I know I played that right. It just shows that as much as you think you can really beat the game, it can smack you back...and you have to be in it for the long run.

And all those CSM's, man, I gave those dealers such a look...i made it known that I wouldn't play at tables with those shufflers...

Best luck to everyone in the advantage play community - and may the cards fall well!
 

Sonny

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Re: Las Vegas Trip - and Fall

It sounds like you had a great time even with the big loss! That's exactly the reason you should not overbet your bankroll. How many $700 swings do you think you could take? If your top bet is two hands of $60, you'd better expect quite a few! If you really wanted to play the $15 table, WONG IN! Better yet, stay away from the 8-deckers.

Okay, okay, enough of my nagging.

You managed to spend plenty of time at the tables. Where else did you play? Did you have any luck?

-Sonny-
 

The Mayor

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Thanks for the story of your bad beat.

I had a similar bad beat on my first real trip. Splitting 8's, a couple of double downs, huge count, dealer has a 6 and pulls a multi-card 21. Now, I couldn't even begin to count how many times this has happened to me.

If making a single bet of a certain size makes a difference to your bottom line, then you are betting too much. I guess you figured that out.

--Mayor
 
Re: Las Vegas Trip - and Fall

[snipped by management]... I spread from $5 to 2 hands of $50 towards the end. Mandalay Bay was pretty nice, we were getting good penetration, around 1.25 decks, and the dealer was really rippin out the cards. For some reason, NY NY hasn't been generous to us, and through a +3 TC, I was getting hammered with 13's and 14's...which really blew, but what can you do, it's part of the game...Another great thing that happened at Hard Rock the day after that loss - I was playing with some of my friends, and telling them what to do. i was spreading pretty big, and I had my friends spread from 1 $5 hand to 2 hands of $50-75. Now, I made him make stupid moves at pts not to raise suspicions, but with max bets out, he was really making some $$...anyways, I look up, and I noticed another pit boss standing with a huge security guard staring at me. I knew they were on to something, and I immediately left the table and headed over to the roulette tables, where another one of my friends was playing. I called my friends at the BJ tables, and told them what I did, and they said afterwards that after 10 mins, the security guard left. Like I always hear you guys say, just walk away so I can come back another day...

The whole key is we look like typical college kids, and my friend is the perfect person b/c he can throw down 5 drinks and completely keep his composure...a little nudge under the table tells him to watch my bet and get money out when needed. We both are finance majors, and have traded equity and index options, so we have an idea of risk management. Currently I work on a convertible arb. trading desk, and he is in investment banking.

I am beginning to take this game to the next level. I have a few friends who are getting comfortable with counting, and I really want to get involved with an existing team. If anyone has suggestions, please let me know. Otherwise, I'll be in Atlantic City every 2-3 weeks, and vegas probably 4 times a year. We are going to make a bankroll of about $10-15k, and play $10 hands.

Please offer suggestions, and let me know what I should be doing. I am extremely passionate about this game, and I want to further myself as an AP. Good luck everyone!
 

The Mayor

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Re: Las Vegas Trip - and Fall

Please do not post any information about casinos that have dealers that flash hole cards.

Thanks!
 

Rob McGarvey

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Re: Las Vegas Trip - and Fall

"Please do not post any information about casinos that have dealers that flash hole cards."

Send info like this directly to the Mayor ONLY! smile LVHCM will probably take the board down again too. Be good!

You are your boys should do well with your plan as long as you can keep it real, back it up, and spread it out like ice.

AC
LV
Two thousand
And three
 
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