Level 4 & 5 counting Strategies

avs21

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I've been looking for Level 4 & 5 counting strategies. Does anyone know where I can find them on the net or a good book to buy that has one.
 

zengrifter

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avs21 said:
I've been looking for Level 4 & 5 counting strategies. Does anyone know where I can find them on the net or a good book to buy that has one.
There are a number of software apps that can produce the indices and/or betting strategies. zg
 

avs21

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ScottH,
Even if their is just a little edge from jumping up to them. I'm home for the summer have plenty time to practice. I already have two counts where I can count 20 or less everytime.


Zen,

There is no published Level 4 or 5 strategies? Which site would you recommend using for creating my own CC strategy?
 

ScottH

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avs21 said:
ScottH,
Even if their is just a little edge from jumping up to them. I'm home for the summer have plenty time to practice. I already have two counts where I can count 20 or less everytime.


Zen,

There is no published Level 4 or 5 strategies? Which site would you recommend using for creating my own CC strategy?
I know there are level 4 systems that have been published, but I havn't heard of any level 5 systems.

I think Uston's Advanced Point Count was level 4, but I don't think it performed as well as he originally thought. ZenGrifter will know more about this.
 

ScottH

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zengrifter said:
Anything beyond level-2 is NOT worth the effort! NOT a wise use of time and effort. zg
I agree with this, BUT the best counting system is the one that performs the best regardless of the difficulty.
 

zengrifter

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ScottH said:
I agree with this, BUT the best counting system is the one that performs the best regardless of the difficulty.
Beyond level-3 they don't perform appreciably better. They are not worth the effort regardless of difficulty. zg
 
ScottH said:
I agree with this, BUT the best counting system is the one that performs the best regardless of the difficulty.
Perhaps, in terms of straight counting. But everybody has the limits of what they can do. Suppose someone can accurately count level 4 or 5. The benefit of level 4 over level 2 is so small, that using the extra required brainpower for even the simplest tracking or sequencing data would be a better use of your ability. Or a sidecount for a sidebet. Just sidecounting aces for play and insurance decisions is more valuable than going up to a very high level count.
 

E-town-guy

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Automatic Monkey said:
Perhaps, in terms of straight counting. But everybody has the limits of what they can do. Suppose someone can accurately count level 4 or 5. The benefit of level 4 over level 2 is so small, that using the extra required brainpower for even the simplest tracking or sequencing data would be a better use of your ability. Or a sidecount for a sidebet. Just sidecounting aces for play and insurance decisions is more valuable than going up to a very high level count.
You probably use more "brain energy" with a higher level count which thus reduces the total time you can play. On the other side using a level 1 or 2 allows you to play longer and probably make more in the long run.
 
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