Level 4 & 5 counting Strategies

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avs21

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I've been looking for Level 4 & 5 counting strategies. Does anyone know where I can find them on the net or a good book to buy that has one.
 
avs21 said:
I've been looking for Level 4 & 5 counting strategies. Does anyone know where I can find them on the net or a good book to buy that has one.
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There are a number of software apps that can produce the indices and/or betting strategies. zg
 
ScottH,
Even if their is just a little edge from jumping up to them. I'm home for the summer have plenty time to practice. I already have two counts where I can count 20 or less everytime.


Zen,

There is no published Level 4 or 5 strategies? Which site would you recommend using for creating my own CC strategy?
 
avs21 said:
ScottH,
Even if their is just a little edge from jumping up to them. I'm home for the summer have plenty time to practice. I already have two counts where I can count 20 or less everytime.


Zen,

There is no published Level 4 or 5 strategies? Which site would you recommend using for creating my own CC strategy?
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I know there are level 4 systems that have been published, but I havn't heard of any level 5 systems.

I think Uston's Advanced Point Count was level 4, but I don't think it performed as well as he originally thought. ZenGrifter will know more about this.
 
zengrifter said:
Anything beyond level-2 is NOT worth the effort! NOT a wise use of time and effort. zg
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I agree with this, BUT the best counting system is the one that performs the best regardless of the difficulty.
 
ScottH said:
I agree with this, BUT the best counting system is the one that performs the best regardless of the difficulty.
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Beyond level-3 they don't perform appreciably better. They are not worth the effort regardless of difficulty. zg
 
ScottH said:
I agree with this, BUT the best counting system is the one that performs the best regardless of the difficulty.
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Perhaps, in terms of straight counting. But everybody has the limits of what they can do. Suppose someone can accurately count level 4 or 5. The benefit of level 4 over level 2 is so small, that using the extra required brainpower for even the simplest tracking or sequencing data would be a better use of your ability. Or a sidecount for a sidebet. Just sidecounting aces for play and insurance decisions is more valuable than going up to a very high level count.
 
Automatic Monkey said:
Perhaps, in terms of straight counting. But everybody has the limits of what they can do. Suppose someone can accurately count level 4 or 5. The benefit of level 4 over level 2 is so small, that using the extra required brainpower for even the simplest tracking or sequencing data would be a better use of your ability. Or a sidecount for a sidebet. Just sidecounting aces for play and insurance decisions is more valuable than going up to a very high level count.
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You probably use more "brain energy" with a higher level count which thus reduces the total time you can play. On the other side using a level 1 or 2 allows you to play longer and probably make more in the long run.
 
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