Looking for Black Jack Program

[ejf071189]

I know there are several counting programs for programming and training various count strategies, but are there any programs that can give plays based on entire deck contents? i.e., you input the cards which have been played and the cards in the hand, and based on what cards are left it outputs the best play?

Thanks

 

[Canceler]

Sure.

Blackjack Game and Computer Software

 

[ejf071189]

Wow, this program seems very comprehensive and simple to use, thanks alot! One question though...

It shows an optimal insurance ev before a hand has been dealt, but doesn't seems to have an ev at the bottom for choosing insurance at the appropriate times. How exactly can this optimal insurance ev be factored into making decisions?

 

[k_c]

Wow, this program seems very comprehensive and simple to use, thanks alot! One question though...

It shows an optimal insurance ev before a hand has been dealt, but doesn't seems to have an ev at the bottom for choosing insurance at the appropriate times. How exactly can this optimal insurance ev be factored into making decisions?

If you play as a randomly dealt game, whenever dealer's up card is an ace you can choose to accept or decline insurance and the insurance EV for that particular hand is displayed. The optimal insurance figure assumes that a player always will make the perfect decision regarding insurance and is computed pre deal.

 

[ejf071189]

Ah, thanks. Another thing i've been noticing with use is that sometimes the program will give standing as the best option when i have a total <10. Is this because I could potentially lessen the dealer's odds of busting if i hit or is there something else i'm missing? It seems with a total this low I should always hit to maximize my total in case the dealer doesn't bust....maybe my intuition is just off.

 

[k_c]

Ah, thanks. Another thing i've been noticing with use is that sometimes the program will give standing as the best option when i have a total <10. Is this because I could potentially lessen the dealer's odds of busting if i hit or is there something else i'm missing? It seems with a total this low I should always hit to maximize my total in case the dealer doesn't bust....maybe my intuition is just off.

The only time it should advise standing on < 10 is if you select the manual strategy option and set the hard standing number to a lower total than the hand total. That's what I suspect you did. You can manually change the hitting strategy for any hand by inputting different hard/soft standing strategies. For example, total dependent basic strategy versus an up card of 10 is to hit to a hard 17 or to a soft 19, so hard standing number = 17 and soft standing number = 19. Using the defaults that exist when the program opens, input 8-8 for player and 10 for dealer and click the calc button. This will display the basic strategy EVs for a pair of 8s versus 10. After that select the manual radio button and set HSN (hard standing number) to 16 and leave SSN (soft standing number) unchanged (= 19) and again click the calc button. You will see a very slight increase in the split EV. This means that it is slightly better strategy to hit to total of 16 rather than 17 when splitting 8s against a 10 and a very slight improvement to basic TD strategy.

 

[ejf071189]

The only time it should advise standing on < 10 is if you select the manual strategy option and set the hard standing number to a lower total than the hand total. That's what I suspect you did. You can manually change the hitting strategy for any hand by inputting different hard/soft standing strategies. For example, total dependent basic strategy versus an up card of 10 is to hit to a hard 17 or to a soft 19, so hard standing number = 17 and soft standing number = 19. Using the defaults that exist when the program opens, input 8-8 for player and 10 for dealer and click the calc button. This will display the basic strategy EVs for a pair of 8s versus 10. After that select the manual radio button and set HSN (hard standing number) to 16 and leave SSN (soft standing number) unchanged (= 19) and again click the calc button. You will see a very slight increase in the split EV. This means that it is slightly better strategy to hit to total of 16 rather than 17 when splitting 8s against a 10 and a very slight improvement to basic TD strategy.

Interesting. I did change the ssn and hsn values when I was trying it out, but oddly neither of them were lower than 10...i put both of them at 21. The reason I did this is I was trying to see ev's for all options rather than having hit greyed out when the h/ssn was too low. Sometimes in game mode I was getting a X* next to an option that was the highest ev (I assumed from use that a * after the x means that the play suggested by the counting method in use is not the best play) so it seemed that it wasn't showing me the ev of what was the best option.

 

[k_c]

Interesting. I did change the ssn and hsn values when I was trying it out, but oddly neither of them were lower than 10...i put both of them at 21. The reason I did this is I was trying to see ev's for all options rather than having hit greyed out when the h/ssn was too low.

That makes sense. If the choice is between standing or hitting until hard 21 then chances are standing is better.

Sometimes in game mode I was getting a X* next to an option that was the highest ev (I assumed from use that a * after the x means that the play suggested by the counting method in use is not the best play) so it seemed that it wasn't showing me the ev of what was the best option.

The X marks basic strategy. The * means a better play has been identified. Right now the only way to display the best play if it isn't basic strategy is to find it manually. Other options might be added, but I wanted to make sure to relate to basic strategy and not put the cart before the horse.

 

[KOLAN]

I know there are several counting programs for programming and training various count strategies, but are there any programs that can give plays based on entire deck contents? i.e., you input the cards which have been played and the cards in the hand, and based on what cards are left it outputs the best play?

Thanks

casino verite
it is good:flame:

 

[k_c]

casino verite
it is good:flame:

Well what was being asked for in this thread is a program the can arrive at a playing decision immediately in real time based upon the shoe's composition. Only a combinatorial analyzer can do that and the main programming problem involved is to make it compute fast enough to be convenient to use. There is nothing wrong with Casino Verité and I'm sure it is useful and can do many, many things but it can't do an exact computation of a present shoe as cards are removed.