BlackjackDan
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I've been using KO for a while and I am looking for something that is a little better. I like the fact the KO is unbalanced and no deck estimations are necessary so I am looking for something similar. What is your take on it?
Looking for level 2 unbalanced count. Advice?
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supercoolmancool
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I think unbalanced Zen is just as good as balanced Zen so I think it is definately worth the switch. Although I think Automatic Monkey used to use an unbalanced count that was really easy and powerful. That might be worth looking at.BlackjackDan said:
Automatic Monkey
Banned
I used BRH-1 which is kind of a level 3 count, and it is easy and powerful.
System tags are {-2,1,2,2,3,2,1,0,0,-2}
But I switch back to balanced because I play almost all shoe games, and balanced is better for Wonging in and out.
System tags are {-2,1,2,2,3,2,1,0,0,-2}
But I switch back to balanced because I play almost all shoe games, and balanced is better for Wonging in and out.
zengrifter
Banned
Unbalanced Zen is as good as ZEN for all practical purposes, and no true-counting issues. zg
tags 2-A
UBZ: 122221 00 -2-1
ZEN: 112221 00 -2-1
tags 2-A
UBZ: 122221 00 -2-1
ZEN: 112221 00 -2-1
BlackjackDan
Member
unbalanced zen
You mentioned unbalanced Zen. Can that be found in "Blackbelt in Blackjack" along with balanced Zen?
You mentioned unbalanced Zen. Can that be found in "Blackbelt in Blackjack" along with balanced Zen?
SystemsTrader
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You will have to get the book or really its a brochure called "The Unbalanced Zen 2" by George C. It runs about $20, just do a search and it will come up who sells it. I don't think Ken sells it here that's why I had to get it elsewhere, but I don't remember who I bought it from. It mainly focuses on double deck.BlackjackDan said:
SystemsTrader
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I should also mention if you just play against 6 and 8 deck shoes, it is not worth switching from KO to UBZ2.
zengrifter
Banned
I think it IS IF its adequately mastered. zgSystemsTrader said:
Mimosine
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man, i was playing around with the Ben Franklin (aka Monkey Count) last night and counted down a few double decks (with new values) and was amazed at how easy a level 2 count was after a few tries. I could stumble through 2 decks in a little more than a minute. i then went back to KO for a little more practice and struggled like a bastard! it was very strange. maybe the level 2 is calling to me....
anyway, i was never really aware of the advantage of an unbalanced level 2 count, hence i was toying with a balanced level 2 count, but now you've all got me thinking..... this could be a very good thing.
anyway, i was never really aware of the advantage of an unbalanced level 2 count, hence i was toying with a balanced level 2 count, but now you've all got me thinking..... this could be a very good thing.
hi, relative beginner here. i have been considering switching from KO to UBZ2; i haven't yet because from what i have read, the betting correlation is higher with KO, and that BC is what is important when playing 6 & 8 deck shoes... is this the case? if so, then why would UBZ2 be a better choice for 6 & 8 deck shoes if adequately mastered? the fact that it's level 2?zengrifter said:
also, i haven't purchased George C's UBZ2 booklet yet because i hear that it's mostly geared to single and double deck, and most of the games near me are 6 & 8 deck. does the booklet go into strategy/index changes and betting ramps for shoes? or would i have to purchase software like CV to generate that info?
thanks!