Lucky Ladies Red 7?

Sohrab

Active Member
There is article here says in 6 decks at KO count of +10 lucky ladies becomes a good bet. KO 6 decks starts at -20 so this is a +30 from starting count. What would it be for Red 7? Would it be -12 + 30 = +18?
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
I wrote simulation software that works for a balanced count, or a running count -- but it doesn't work with Red 7.

Give me any count that doesn't separate individual cards from a suit, the game (with the exact payoffs), I'll report back to you.

--Mayor
 

suicyco maniac

Well-Known Member
how about......

The uston APC double deck any 20 4-1 suited 10-1 matched 25-1 2 queens 200-1 with dealers bj 1000-1 side bet limits 1-100$ with the casino maxing out the payout at 20,000. Just curious....
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
The results you are after!!!

It can handle: 2,2,2,2,2,1,0,0,-2,-2 -- you can just cut these results in half to get your entry point...etc.

Let me just say, there are MUCH MORE PROFITABLE WAYS of playing this game. For this game, it looks like for Red-7, make the bet at a TC of 11 or higher.

This is for a 6 deck game, normal payoffs, play all, true count conversion (rather than running count), 100,000,000 hands simulation.

Code:
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Lucky Ladies Report
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Number of decks: 6
number of hands: 100000000
Penetration: 240 cards.
Payoff schedule:
   Any 20:        4-to-1
   Suited 20:     9-to-1
   Matched 20:    19-to-1
   QH pair:       125-to-1
   QH pair + BJ:  1000-to-1
Count system:
   A: -2
   2: 2
   3: 2
   4: 2
   5: 2
   6: 2
   7: 1
   8: 0
   9: 0
   T: -2
QofH: -2


Lucky Lady earnings per 100 rounds (per hour): $2.3793
Wager is made 1.20801 times per 100 rounds (per hour)
Earnings per Lucky Lady $25 bet actually placed: $1.9696
Leave the table when true count falls below -99.
Key True count (make bet at this count or higher): 22
Standard deviation per hand is: $20.9356
Desirability index for this system: 94.0789


TC      %EV     FREQ
<=0     -31     39115539
1       -26.08  9721943
2       -25.19  7931446
3       -24.21  6578164
4       -22.95  5518697
5       -22.58  4675367
6       -21.39  3922773
7       -20.79  3386449
8       -19.94  2869770
9       -18.78  2445836
10      -18.24  2140948
11      -16.99  1826353
12      -14.95  1260500
13      -14.94  1595683
14      -13.65  1153000
15      -12.28  1003649
16      -9.43   813061
17      -9.48   698808
18      -7.61   615974
19      -5.51   480679
20      -4.83   437240
21      -3.98   344232
22      -0.94   277664
23      0.57    255587
24      1.72    193915
25      5.14    111636
26      5.01    168106
27      9.01    100232
28      12.24   90397
29      13.06   58541
30      17.54   48698
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
Re: how about......

The results you are after -- now, please send me this game! This is for a $25 max, at $100, you are making about $40 per hour.

Private email is fine.


Code:
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Lucky Ladies Report
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Number of decks: 2
number of hands: 100000000
Penetration: 66 cards.
Payoff schedule:
   Any 20:        4-to-1
   Suited 20:     10-to-1
   Matched 20:    25-to-1
   QH pair:       200-to-1
   QH pair + BJ:  1000-to-1
Count system:
   A: 0
   2: 1
   3: 2
   4: 2
   5: 3
   6: 2
   7: 2
   8: 1
   9: -1
   T: -3
QofH: -3


Lucky Lady earnings per 100 rounds (per hour): $12.6634
Wager is made 4.48969 times per 100 rounds (per hour)
Earnings per Lucky Lady $25 bet actually placed: $2.82054
Leave the table when true count falls below -99.
Key True count (make bet at this count or higher): 15
Standard deviation per hand is: $31.6551
Desirability index for this system: 89.1023


TC      %EV     FREQ
<=0     -33.39  58003115
1       -23.2   5974264
2       -21.42  5218113
3       -19.68  4599638
4       -17.62  3750689
5       -16.8   3286154
6       -14.91  2782073
7       -13.2   2435544
8       -11.89  1984351
9       -9.04   1820475
10      -7.8    1549359
11      -7.34   1279136
12      -5.38   657296
13      -3.94   1357429
14      -0.65   811441
15      0.51    731185
16      3.37    629259
17      5.57    450999
18      6.61    454936
19      9.03    351967
20      11.7    329386
21      13.77   221003
22      15.01   242752
23      16.81   202111
24      20.28   167382
25      16.96   44366
 

Sohrab

Active Member
Re: The results you are after!!!

My plan was to play as usual but also make side bet when it was right. But I did not know when it was right. Thank you so much for this.

But I am still confused. With Red 7 there is running count not true count. I know converting is not exact but is there some way to estimate true count from running count? R7 with 6 decks starts at -12, and every deck has +2, then does this mean true of +11 is close to running R7 of +13? So bet gets good at running R7 of +13?
 

suicyco maniac

Well-Known Member
whats your E-mail address

Thanks mayor I looked for your e-mail address but couldn,t find it. I really don,t want this game swarming with counters but I guess it would only be fair since you helped me out (I would usually bet it around plus12 with 2Q left and 16 with one)however Lately I have been getting killed on some +30 counts where I get 15 and everyone else gets a 9,10 or ace since the APC counts a 9 as a big one...... one more question how bout 6 deck any 20 4-1 suited 9-1 matched 19-1 2QH 125-1 2Q with dealer bj 1000-1 max payout 20,000 using the ubz2 with the IRC at zero.(for a friend of mine) yes I will give you the details just give me that E-mail. SM
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
The RC version

This starts with a RC of 0 -- looks like a RC of 22 will do it. Not a great system or very profitable in your case, i.e. Red 7 sucks for lucky ladies.

Code:
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Lucky Ladies Report
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Number of decks: 6
number of hands: 100000000
Penetration: 240 cards.
Payoff schedule:
   Any 20:        4-to-1
   Suited 20:     9-to-1
   Matched 20:    19-to-1
   QH pair:       125-to-1
   QH pair + BJ:  1000-to-1
Count system:
   A: -2
   2: 2
   3: 2
   4: 2
   5: 2
   6: 2
   7: 1
   8: 0
   9: 0
   T: -2
QofH: -2


Lucky Lady earnings per 100 rounds (per hour): $0.97955
Wager is made 1.06572 times per 100 rounds (per hour)
Earnings per Lucky Lady $25 bet actually placed: $0.919141
Leave the table when true count falls below -99.
Key Running count (make bet a this running count or higher): 44
Standard deviation per hand is: $18.8737
Desirability index for this system: 48.6997


TC      %EV     FREQ
<=0     -32.36  29418061
1       -28.8   2558953
2       -27.95  2851906
3       -28.71  2725396
4       -28.05  2904722
5       -27.52  2698485
6       -27.17  2784411
7       -27.14  2684986
8       -26.29  2692535
9       -26.21  2587433
10      -25.84  2560679
11      -24.83  2489935
12      -24.46  2443314
13      -24.34  2367096
14      -23.53  2308921
15      -23.75  2230090
16      -23.21  2161085
17      -22.06  2077852
18      -21.45  1998344
19      -20.86  1913531
20      -20     1826790
21      -19.85  1743023
22      -18.95  1649729
23      -18.66  1564087
24      -16.68  1475441
25      -16.88  1388679
26      -16.05  1299318
27      -15.39  1214279
28      -14.32  1130725
29      -14.47  1047915
30      -12.58  967111
31      -11.3   891042
32      -11.16  816600
33      -9      743611
34      -9.44   678037
35      -8.82   612576
36      -6.23   553600
37      -6.61   497203
38      -5.54   446662
39      -4.09   398595
40      -3.79   352794
41      -3.85   312637
42      -1.95   275326
43      -0.37   241152
44      2.14    211008
45      0.87    183370
46      2.29    159395
47      3.19    136725
48      4.55    117687
49      8.2     100101
50      6.89    85139
51      7.71    72298
52      4.31    61068
53      3.48    51408
54      7.17    43217
 
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