Making a big bet in a negative count?

Do you bet big in a negative count to get a shuffle up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 14.3%
  • no

    Votes: 12 85.7%
  • not sure!

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    14

Cardcounter

Well-Known Member
You are playing at a table and make a big bet with the count and the dealer shuffles up on you prematurely. You ask the dealer why he shuffled up on you and the dealer says you jumped your bet too much. When the count goes down to negative do you make a big bet hoping that the dealer doesn't know how to count and shuffles up on you to erase a negative deck?
 

bj bob

Well-Known Member
Cardcounter said:
You are playing at a table and make a big bet with the count and the dealer shuffles up on you prematurely. You ask the dealer why he shuffled up on you and the dealer says you jumped your bet too much. When the count goes down to negative do you make a big bet hoping that the dealer doesn't know how to count and shuffles up on you to erase a negative deck?
Yes, that's a classic ploy right out of Beat the Dealer, but in the long run, once you're in that situation you are also faced with shuffle-ups in good counts as well, so that game has been rendered futile. So get out of Sparks, head west and continue on Va. Street.
BTW, What's the fixation with polls lately? You must be spending too much time at the clubs on Wells checking out those poll dances.
 
Beating Neg counts

A decade or so ago a well known player published a pamphlet that was distributed to other AP's concerning his, her, experiences concerning playing in negative counts.. using many indices for negative count play. This was most fascinating and did cause some controversy. I still have the Indices printed in the pamphlet which I have included in my arsenal.

I have come to believe that through VERY SKILLED play in good DD games that it is possible to hold your own and to even beat the game at such times. It is *good cover* and a good *mental exercise* to use tactical moves against the house during these neg. counts and it can be great fun to do these *deviations*, of course with minimal bets out. Actually I have found the bigger the negative count the more exciting it can get. :eek:

You do not always have the luxury to Wong Out in neg. counts for a variety of reasons. ;)

I am not recommending this for everyone, or anyone, but simply mentioning it as one example how a Skilled AP may choose to think "Outside The Box". :cool:

CP
 

jack.jackson

Well-Known Member
Cardcounter said:
You are playing at a table and make a big bet with the count and the dealer shuffles up on you prematurely. You ask the dealer why he shuffled up on you and the dealer says you jumped your bet too much. When the count goes down to negative do you make a big bet hoping that the dealer doesn't know how to count and shuffles up on you to erase a negative deck?
Yes and NO. You must be able to read your dealer and have the ability to predict what he or she might do, based on your actions.
 
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