Does anyone know of any casinos in the eastern U.S. with a minimum age of 18 or 19? I've heard some reservations have minimum ages of 18, and Ontario and Quebec have minimums of 18 or 19. I'm looking to play Spanish or blackjack with decent pen./rules, but am pretty low on cash so <$25 minimums would be best.
Minimum Age- 18/19?
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Pelerus
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I took a trip to Turning Stone with a college friend when he wasn't yet 21. He was a poker player, while I had already moved on to blackjack at that point. We drove there in mid-December, setting out in the evening with temperatures in the single digits. It was a long and grueling ride which lasted close to 7 hours. We played for several hours after arriving, retired to a nearby Super 8 motel, and played throughout the next day before departing that evening.jnich18 said:
Playing conditions were marginal. Penetration was about 6/8 (sometimes a bit worse), no surrender, S17, DAS, DOA. An automatic shuffling machine was used - not a CSM, but rather a machine that shuffles a shoe of cards while the current shoe is being played, so that there is very little downtime from one shoe to the next. I was not a shuffle tracker or sequencer, so this did not affect me aside from increasing the number of hands per hour somewhat.
The one bright spot for me was that $5 minimum tables were available during the graveyard shift, which allowed me sit through more negative counts than I would have otherwise. (There were only a few tables open, so aggressive wonging was not an option in any case.) In order to spread to multiple betting spots, a player is required to bet at least double the minimum on each spot.
My friend had it worse in the poker room than I did on the blackjack felt though - he had to wait over an hour to be seated at a no limit table. The stakes there were small too, if I remember correctly, with $1-2 tables predominating.
We each made a few hundred dollars, and I was satisfied with the small win. I can't say I have any plans or desire to go back there, as the only real reason I can imagine to go to Turning Stone is if you aren't yet 21 and it's the closest under-21 casino - so my player's card will probably be collecting dust for a long while.
FLASH1296
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Turning Stone has the dubious (dis)honor of offering the worst penetration in North America I do believe.
Eight deckers and 2.25 to 2.75 cut off.
Considerable heat.
On the other hand, the Akwesasne Mohawk Casino, on the Canadian border, on the Saint Regis Indian Reservation, a few miles from Cornwall Ontario, and not all that far from Montreal, offers 6 deckers for low stakes with 1.5 decks cut off.
Eight deckers and 2.25 to 2.75 cut off.
Considerable heat.
On the other hand, the Akwesasne Mohawk Casino, on the Canadian border, on the Saint Regis Indian Reservation, a few miles from Cornwall Ontario, and not all that far from Montreal, offers 6 deckers for low stakes with 1.5 decks cut off.
Minimum age
ALL casino's in upstate NY and the ones in Canada (Niagara Falls & Thousand Island) are 21 years old to enter.
Turning Bone is the only 18 yr old I know of......they do not serve booze.
Flash is 100% correct......worst pen I have ever seen. They are the only game in town and know it, so they don't have to offer good games or rules.
They did have a few double deck games about a year ago, that were on simply 'ok' to play......but they pulled them and replaced them with 8-deck shoes. Ploppies never noticed and the tables are full.
ALL casino's in upstate NY and the ones in Canada (Niagara Falls & Thousand Island) are 21 years old to enter.
Turning Bone is the only 18 yr old I know of......they do not serve booze.
Flash is 100% correct......worst pen I have ever seen. They are the only game in town and know it, so they don't have to offer good games or rules.
They did have a few double deck games about a year ago, that were on simply 'ok' to play......but they pulled them and replaced them with 8-deck shoes. Ploppies never noticed and the tables are full.
SystemsTrader
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This information which Albee posted is just wrong.Albee said:
NY state has 4 casinos with blackjack and Spanish. Only 2 casinos in NY have 21 minimums and Canada is either 18 or 19 to enter depending on the province.
Turning Stone 18
Akwesasne Mohawk 18
Seneca Niagara 21
Allegany 21
All casinos in Ontario 19
All casinos in Quebec 18
Martin Gayle
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I second Systems Trader data. The info Albee gave is erroneous in regards to the minimum ages.
StandardDeviant
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Apologies for the Lecture
If you're someone whose definition of "low on cash" is "to have less than $10K to spend on gambling" then I retract the lecture above. But then, there are much better ways to use the money you have to make more money. For example, you might try trading Canadian bacon on the futures exchanges.
Bonne chance!
Why are you worrying about advantage play? If you are "low on cash" then you're not equipped to play the game to win, no matter how well you can count. Just go give away the little money you do have...along with everyone else. At least you'll be gaining experience.jnich18 said:
If you're someone whose definition of "low on cash" is "to have less than $10K to spend on gambling" then I retract the lecture above. But then, there are much better ways to use the money you have to make more money. For example, you might try trading Canadian bacon on the futures exchanges.
Bonne chance!
thanks guys
Thanks everybody, that is very helpful.
As far as "low on cash", it means college student with net worth <$5K but tuition and housing covered for the next couple years. So I could lose a fairly substantial percentage of my money but right now my expenses are as low as they'll ever be, and it's not like I've got kids at home who'll starve if the dealer draws to 21 a couple times. I realize it's not the most responsible thing in the world but for a college road trip it could be worse.
Now to decide whether driving to upstate New York in December/January is a good idea.
Has anyone played Spanish at Fallsview/Casino Niagara?
Thanks everybody, that is very helpful.
As far as "low on cash", it means college student with net worth <$5K but tuition and housing covered for the next couple years. So I could lose a fairly substantial percentage of my money but right now my expenses are as low as they'll ever be, and it's not like I've got kids at home who'll starve if the dealer draws to 21 a couple times. I realize it's not the most responsible thing in the world but for a college road trip it could be worse.
Now to decide whether driving to upstate New York in December/January is a good idea.
Has anyone played Spanish at Fallsview/Casino Niagara?
SystemsTrader
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Don't bother the pen is horrible. They will cut out 2.5 decks.jnich18 said: