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Ryguy

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Hi everyone,

Thanks to everyone who posts on this board. I have read countless helpful tips, advice, personal experience etc that are invaluable to me.

I started counting about a year ago by reading WGBB. I practiced and read and practiced and read. I played at home on my comp keeping track of my wins and losses.

I learned HO-1 for 6-Deck play as this is the game that is local to me (Canada). However, I quickly learned that in order to have any hope of beating that game I have to wong in to + counts and wong out low counts. Also, I found the spread a bit of a problem. Since I was just beginning to implement my skills in real casino play, I was hesitant to bet a 1-12 spread @ a $5 min. Simply put - I felt way over my head....

So I hit the books some more and came across this site and other similar sites and did some more homework. I dropped the HO-1 (without Ace side count) and picked up learning Hi-Lo. I found this far easier to use and as a result, I was able to quickly begin learing some indexes. I started to find success playing at home enough to try the casino again.

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I've had moderate success playing that game. Still working on my game but appreciate the help and advice from everyone here!

On a side note:
I was down in Vegas last week and I could not believe the amount of 6:5 SD I saw down there. My first trip to Vegas and I spent near zero hours playing on the strip. It's too bad for sure but I know I was wise to avoid that game all together. I was very unimpressed with the quality of games in Vegas. I played some single deck Downtown but I found the shuffle always came just as the count was getting good. I can only remember one time where I was able to get my max bet out during a good count. :( Generally the tables were full and they dealt out two hands from the SD. The first hand would have to be +3 or +4 in order for me to get a decent bet out.

Cheers,

RyGuy
 
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V-man

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Hey, RyGuy
Glad you join the club.
My situation is similar to yours, except that I'm here in the eastern Canada. There is no good game here for me to play, it's all 8 decks and cut 2.5-3. You can only win with excessive wonging and spread 1-40 (would require a huge bankroll though). Like you, I've also been in Vegas, and I found mostly CSM and 6:5, the good game exist but with minimum like $100. If you are playing red, downtown is definitely your hangout.
I also started out with HOI but quickly abandoned it and pickup HiLo really fast. I have also tried KO and found that it's a lot easier to use KO in 2 decks games. As far as counting practice is concerned, converting from HiLo to KO is like a breeze.
I will be visiting Vancouver in the summer. Any decent BJ game in Van?
 
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revereman

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I've always played 6-8 deck shoes so I can't give you much advice on single and double deck. However, the posts here seem to indicate that SD and DD ganes have deteriorated in most places. My advice is to go the shoe route. Less heat (although it does exist, depending on the location). You still have to shop around for good pen too. Overall, the game of BJ has deteriorated so you have missed the golden years of BJ. I'm afraid its still going downhill from here. Counters are a very small minority of players and casinos have no reason to cater to us. Players are playing CSMs and 6:5 games, so there is no reason for casinos to make available a better game. Some sophisticated players tell us shuffle tracking is the way to go. Although I haven't tried it, I think it is pretty difficult and the opportunities aren't plentiful. Some people say you have to travel all over the world to find good opportunities but that is just not practical for most of us and, besides, they won't tell us where the good games are. Unless you are super serious, learn to count well so you'll have a slight advantage, have fun, take advantage of comps, and bet with your head, not over it. Good luck.
 
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Ryguy

Member
V-Man: Here in Vancouver there are only 2 types of games available.

1. 4 Deck CSM - DA2, DAS, LSR. This is available at all Great Canadian Casinos.

2. 6 Deck shoe - DA2, DAS, LSR. This is available in New Westminster Riverboat and Royal Towers. Also at the Radisson in Burnaby.

$5 tables are nearly always packed.....
 
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phantom007

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Are you the same RyGuy????

Who worked in Missouri a month or two ago?

Who we called, and you loved, the title, of "Little Adolph"?

If yes, phantom007 says "hi"!

If no, then sorry....welcome to CC.com!

Zieg Heil!

phantom007.
 
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