New here with a question

[drak1258]

Hello everyone,

Ive been reading the posts here for a few days and have been impressed by the knowledge of this game by all. I have a question I think I know the answer to but Ill ask it anyway. I have been playing BJ at a casino that is strictly computerized. What is your opinion on playing this version. Obvioulsy you cannot count cards. Do you think they are legit? Its a Harrahs casino in North Carolina. Also, I have read the book "Betting on BJ a non counters breakthrough guide to making profits at the tables" by Frits Dunki-Jacobs. Ive been practicing his method and Im going to MS this month to try it out. Anyway, any suggestions or advice is appreciated.

Thanks,

Todd

 

[moo321]

You know, I'm going to North Carolina later, and I was thinking about playing there. Is is video blackjack, like a computer, or do they just have a computer display of a human dealer? Are the cards real? If it's a Harrah's casino, I wouldn't worry about it being rigged or anything.

 

[Sonny]

If it's a Harrah's casino, I wouldn't worry about it being rigged or anything.

Yeah, Harrah's is very upfront about their scams. They’ll even put a cute little plaque right on the table that says “Blackjack pays 6:5. Dealer wins ties.” :laugh:

-Sonny-

 

[ChefJJ]

The problem with that casino (haven't been there for a couple years now) is that the digital BJ game they offer is a shoe game, and they only use the first few decks of it...something close to 50% penetration (that's just as lame in the casino as it is in bed). Plus, they only let you double on 10 & 11, and really limit any potential edge you could get via counting with such rules.

Bascially, it's an unbeatable game even though you could count it down to the cut card. It's a tough market living in the Smokies...I used to live down there for about 6 years. Might as well roll to greater Cincinnati if you live on the TN side of the mountains.

good luck

 

[drak1258]

Digital BJ

Its called digital BJ. A live dealer pushes the buttons to deal, split, DD and so forth. You have a screen in front of you that the cards appear on. You hit or stand sith hand motion and the dealer pushes buttons to do what you ask. It is 50% pen. with a 6 deck shoe. The rules have changed to Double any two, DSO17, DAS. Pretty good rules.

Todd

 

[moo321]

Are they good with comps?

 

[drak1258]

I think so...

If I quit going for awhile and then go back, they add up pretty quick. Especially if you get to know the staff.

 

[ChefJJ]

The rules have changed to Double any two, DSO17, DAS. Pretty good rules.

That is definitely a better set of rules than in the past. The pen still sucks...makes it pretty hard to count it.

 

[Kasi]

Do you think they are legit?... Anyway, any suggestions or advice is appreciated.

Log 1000 dealer upcards, log number of BJ's, log W/L/T of hands played with BS. Maybe suited splits too.

Compare to expected for rules, etc.

Voila, if ur within 1 standard deviation, no worries.

If 3, do some more hands lol.

And u haven't risked $1.

That's if u really want to answer ur own question.

 

[ChefJJ]

Log 1000 dealer upcards, log number of BJ's, log W/L/T of hands played with BS. Maybe suited splits too.

Compare to expected for rules, etc.

Voila, if ur within 1 standard deviation, no worries.

If 3, do some more hands lol.

And u haven't risked $1.

That's if u really want to answer ur own question.

That's ridiculous.

 

[Kasi]

That's ridiculous.

I took his question as questioning the fairness of the game.

If u had doubts about the fairness of a computer-dealt game, how would u go about it?

All I really meant was, if one really cares, analyze some results urself in any way that satisfies u the game is fairly dealt.

Personally, I have faith that most computer games are fair and don't worry about it.

U get down a couple standard deviations, I almost guarantee u will think the game is crooked.

 

[ChefJJ]

If u had doubts about the fairness of a computer-dealt game, how would u go about it?

You're telling me that you would stand there at a casino and write down on a piece of paper the dealer up-card for 1000 hands? As I said before, that's ridiculous.

 

[Kasi]

As I said before, that's ridiculous.

As I asked before, how would u, or anyone, go about determining the fairness of a computer-dealt game if u had doubts? Or even a physical card game?

All I really meant is, if I actually had doubts, I'd record some number of results in some fashion until I satisfied myself the game was fairly-dealt and those 20 hands in a row I lost actually were the result of bad luck.

It certainly wouldn't be the first time a computer programmer made a mistake, unintentionally or otherwise.

But, I'm sure like u, I do kind of wonder about those guys playing baccarat that write down something on a sheet of paper every hand. For some reason, it seems like the thing to do in that game. Pretty sure though they are not doing it to analyze the randomness of the results lol.

No big deal - one man's ridiculousness to another man might seem like common sense lol.