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phantom007
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Omega II appears to be the same as Canfield Master Count. Indicies may be different, but not likely statistically significant.
AOII is GREAT for SD, OK for DD, and "just a pain" for all other decks.
I personally use AOII for SD, with Ace-side Count, and when I am feeling energetic, also, an "8 Side-Count (for Ins. Purposes). For DD, I use same, without "8 Side-Count" about 1/2 the time, and Revere Systemic Count for the rest. For 4+ Decks, I use Revere Systemic.
Having recently abandoned AOII in Multi-Deck, in favour of Revere Systemic, it appears that I am doing better. Not enough trials to tell. It is just a Pain in the Ass to do an Ace Side-Count in a 6D game.
Please study Revere Systemic for MD games....2-7=+1, 8=0, and 9,10,A=-1.
96% Betting and 56% Playing Efficiencies are not bad "trade-offs", in return for ease of use and relative lack of errors.
Stick to AOII for SD, and maybe, DD.
phantom007
AOII is GREAT for SD, OK for DD, and "just a pain" for all other decks.
I personally use AOII for SD, with Ace-side Count, and when I am feeling energetic, also, an "8 Side-Count (for Ins. Purposes). For DD, I use same, without "8 Side-Count" about 1/2 the time, and Revere Systemic Count for the rest. For 4+ Decks, I use Revere Systemic.
Having recently abandoned AOII in Multi-Deck, in favour of Revere Systemic, it appears that I am doing better. Not enough trials to tell. It is just a Pain in the Ass to do an Ace Side-Count in a 6D game.
Please study Revere Systemic for MD games....2-7=+1, 8=0, and 9,10,A=-1.
96% Betting and 56% Playing Efficiencies are not bad "trade-offs", in return for ease of use and relative lack of errors.
Stick to AOII for SD, and maybe, DD.
phantom007
thanx phantom
thanx for the input phantom. after lots of reading i'm thinking the aoII might be to advanced for me at present. also, considering my starting bankroll, it seems i should start at the very lowest minimum bet. there are several $2 and $3 6D games w/ good rules close to me. you said you like a revere system for multi-deck. i've heard and read alot about K-O. have you used K-O? thanx
thanx for the input phantom. after lots of reading i'm thinking the aoII might be to advanced for me at present. also, considering my starting bankroll, it seems i should start at the very lowest minimum bet. there are several $2 and $3 6D games w/ good rules close to me. you said you like a revere system for multi-deck. i've heard and read alot about K-O. have you used K-O? thanx
phantom007
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You are welcome!
I hope I have been some help. No, I have never played KO...after buying 20+ BJ books, I decided it was "time to master" what I had, instead of my continual looking "for a easier way to profits".
Certainly, there is nothing wrong with KO. I am just comfortable and satisfied with "where I am at"...using AOII for SD, and some DD, and using RSC for the rest.
However, if you are just starting out, I suggest that you learn a "COMPLEX" system, such as AOII with Ace-side-count, FIRST. Should take you about 100-200 hours of practice to get proficient, at least to the SD and DD levels.
Then, if you ever decide to go to a simpler Level I system for MD games, it will take you about 100-200 MINUTES of practice to get proficient at same.
Conversely, if you start out "Simple", it may be difficult for many to "make the switch" to a higher level system.......see the post regarding same by Parker in the "Forbidden Zone".
Again, hope to have been helpful. But who am I...I still think that Progression BJ has a place (but just in ++ decks)!
phantom007.
I hope I have been some help. No, I have never played KO...after buying 20+ BJ books, I decided it was "time to master" what I had, instead of my continual looking "for a easier way to profits".
Certainly, there is nothing wrong with KO. I am just comfortable and satisfied with "where I am at"...using AOII for SD, and some DD, and using RSC for the rest.
However, if you are just starting out, I suggest that you learn a "COMPLEX" system, such as AOII with Ace-side-count, FIRST. Should take you about 100-200 hours of practice to get proficient, at least to the SD and DD levels.
Then, if you ever decide to go to a simpler Level I system for MD games, it will take you about 100-200 MINUTES of practice to get proficient at same.
Conversely, if you start out "Simple", it may be difficult for many to "make the switch" to a higher level system.......see the post regarding same by Parker in the "Forbidden Zone".
Again, hope to have been helpful. But who am I...I still think that Progression BJ has a place (but just in ++ decks)!
phantom007.