OKLAHOMA CASINOS

[PlumBob]

The Cherokee casino in Tulsa,Ok opened their Class 3 Table games last
Thursday 1-27-2005. I went out to play Sat nite. Each player had to {AN'TE}
$.50 per hand on bets up to $50.00 & $1.00 per hand on bets of $51.00 or more.
They had two $5.00 tables & ten $10.00 tables plus some $15.00 & $25.00 tables also. They plan to have aprox 30 tables of bj. Many other Indian casinos in
the state will have table games in the near future. My problem was the AN'TE.
It seemed to eat away at my chips really fast. Maybe $25.00 to $40.00 per hour.
Have You ever heard of AN'TE on bj?

 

[Shaggy18vw]

Yes

Some of the California Indian casinos used to charge juice. As I recall, it was a $1.00 per hand regardless of the amount you were betting. This type of expense makes the game very bad. On the other hand, if you are betting $500 a hand, and the game is otherwise good, this wouldn't be a problem.

 

[Sun runner]

The Ante

They are charging the ante (rake) because they do not have an unlimited gaming license like say LV or Tunica. The state of Oklahoma sees to that.

Therefore, if I understand correctly, the house only is supposed to be earning the ante. The BJ profits that accumulate in the tray must be re-paid back in the form of giveaways, free tournamnets, something. I do not believe the house is allowed possession of the BJ profits. (But I'm not naieve either.)

To answer your question, ShaggyVW is right; straight counting those lower limit games puts your EV in the tank. Unless you can play to the higher limits (you figure where the BE is) it is a sucker bet.

 

[okie]

you are correct, with the exception of...

betting higher limits. The majority of the casinos will simply continue to raise the ante (commission)as the amount of money played goes up. There may be some exceptions to the rule but I doubt it. At best you will be playing with an additional 1% disadvantage. If you are looking for an opportunity to make money, check out the Oklahoma Poker. Observe one game for about 30 minutes and tell me if your mouth doesn't start watering.