Online BJ
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Some answers...
>Pardon my ignorance, as I am fairly new but I had a simple question(s) I wanted to toss out to the group:
Welcome!
>Dpes anybody play BJ in a online casino?
I used to play quite a bit, and many others who visit here play currently.
>Whhich one's can you trust to be fair?
There are two levels here. Do you trust the software? Do you trust the owners of the site to pay you once you've won? As for the software, pretty much any site that is "Microgaming" is safe enough, you can be sure you are not going to be cheated. As for the other part, getting paid, I never had any problems from the bigger casinos. Just start with those, and you'll get used to it. There are MANY sites that recommend casinos and have ratings for them, you can use google for that. But, casinos like English Harbour, Casino-on-net, etc., have been around forever and are very good to start with.
>Can counting work online?
No. Most people who make money off of online casinos do so by "bonus hustling" which means playing perfect basic strategy for just long enough to cash out the bonus you get by getting a new account. According to one friend who works at it about 8 hours a day, the final pay amounts to about $50/hour.
>Thanks for the wisdom that is sure to come!
Hmm... just have a go. We used to have an expert here who would have told you more than you wanted, but very sadly, he has passed on. Hopefully a few of those who are current can give you a tip or two. My info is about 18 months old (last time I "bonus hustled").
--Mayor
>Pardon my ignorance, as I am fairly new but I had a simple question(s) I wanted to toss out to the group:
Welcome!
>Dpes anybody play BJ in a online casino?
I used to play quite a bit, and many others who visit here play currently.
>Whhich one's can you trust to be fair?
There are two levels here. Do you trust the software? Do you trust the owners of the site to pay you once you've won? As for the software, pretty much any site that is "Microgaming" is safe enough, you can be sure you are not going to be cheated. As for the other part, getting paid, I never had any problems from the bigger casinos. Just start with those, and you'll get used to it. There are MANY sites that recommend casinos and have ratings for them, you can use google for that. But, casinos like English Harbour, Casino-on-net, etc., have been around forever and are very good to start with.
>Can counting work online?
No. Most people who make money off of online casinos do so by "bonus hustling" which means playing perfect basic strategy for just long enough to cash out the bonus you get by getting a new account. According to one friend who works at it about 8 hours a day, the final pay amounts to about $50/hour.
>Thanks for the wisdom that is sure to come!
Hmm... just have a go. We used to have an expert here who would have told you more than you wanted, but very sadly, he has passed on. Hopefully a few of those who are current can give you a tip or two. My info is about 18 months old (last time I "bonus hustled").
--Mayor
phantom007
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More Answers.......
The main problem with online BJ, excluding honesty and getting paid, is that all current games to my knowledge are effectively CSM's (Continuous Shuffle Machines), so that CC'ing is worthless. In a live game, if you are dealt 2 "little cards" the first hand of a deck/shoe, they cannot reappear until the shuffle...not so on-line, they "shuffle" after every round.
Now with this said, I did read a year or so back a piece that suggested that there was a SMALL +EV to playing certain sites that offered SD, though this was minimal...like +0.01% or something close. By memory, the author was Shackleford and the sites had Microgaming software, but don't hold me to this.
Anyhow, one had to play PERFECT B.S. and make certain "composition" play changes...you were not really counting cards, but RATHER the # of cards. For example, in SD, we would usually hit a 16 vs. Dealer 10-up...NOT SO if your 16 was composed of "3-or-more" cards.
Personally, I have only played on-line BJ once, and at least 8 years ago (back when one could still use a Credit Card to buy-in). Then, at whatever site I was on, I did think it "wierd" that one could only bet at 3 levels, which were $1, $5, and $25 per hand. Bought in for something like $20, and at the $1 level, had doubled my money over an hour! THIS IS EASY! So, I bought in for $300., moved up to the $25 level, and was watching TV 15 minutes later.
Was I cheated? Probably not. Since, have had MANY Bigger swings in Real Casinos. Just thought it wierd, that when playing for "chump change" I won, and for "big $", I could only get 16 and the Dealer only 21.
I have recently "branched out" into online Poker. Have always gotten paid, though this is with a well-known store. Still curious though, why can they take $$$ OUT of my bank account in 3-5 business SECONDS, but when I cash-in, it takes 3-5 business DAYS!
If I can find info. alluded to above re: On-line SD, I will repost here in a few days. Otherwise, please share your experience if you try on-line BJ.
phantom007.
The main problem with online BJ, excluding honesty and getting paid, is that all current games to my knowledge are effectively CSM's (Continuous Shuffle Machines), so that CC'ing is worthless. In a live game, if you are dealt 2 "little cards" the first hand of a deck/shoe, they cannot reappear until the shuffle...not so on-line, they "shuffle" after every round.
Now with this said, I did read a year or so back a piece that suggested that there was a SMALL +EV to playing certain sites that offered SD, though this was minimal...like +0.01% or something close. By memory, the author was Shackleford and the sites had Microgaming software, but don't hold me to this.
Anyhow, one had to play PERFECT B.S. and make certain "composition" play changes...you were not really counting cards, but RATHER the # of cards. For example, in SD, we would usually hit a 16 vs. Dealer 10-up...NOT SO if your 16 was composed of "3-or-more" cards.
Personally, I have only played on-line BJ once, and at least 8 years ago (back when one could still use a Credit Card to buy-in). Then, at whatever site I was on, I did think it "wierd" that one could only bet at 3 levels, which were $1, $5, and $25 per hand. Bought in for something like $20, and at the $1 level, had doubled my money over an hour! THIS IS EASY! So, I bought in for $300., moved up to the $25 level, and was watching TV 15 minutes later.
Was I cheated? Probably not. Since, have had MANY Bigger swings in Real Casinos. Just thought it wierd, that when playing for "chump change" I won, and for "big $", I could only get 16 and the Dealer only 21.
I have recently "branched out" into online Poker. Have always gotten paid, though this is with a well-known store. Still curious though, why can they take $$$ OUT of my bank account in 3-5 business SECONDS, but when I cash-in, it takes 3-5 business DAYS!
If I can find info. alluded to above re: On-line SD, I will repost here in a few days. Otherwise, please share your experience if you try on-line BJ.
phantom007.
$64,000 website
For online play, is it relatively safe to set up shop at any of the links listed at?:
http://webhome.idirect.com/~blakjack/64000.htm
...I found this link in another post on this wonderful site, so I'm hoping most of the links there are trustworthy.
I believe the site is attributed to another fellow (Rob McGarvey) who has recently passed away. Sounds like he was a wonderful pal and intelligent player, my condolences to all whom he called a friend.
For online play, is it relatively safe to set up shop at any of the links listed at?:
http://webhome.idirect.com/~blakjack/64000.htm
...I found this link in another post on this wonderful site, so I'm hoping most of the links there are trustworthy.
I believe the site is attributed to another fellow (Rob McGarvey) who has recently passed away. Sounds like he was a wonderful pal and intelligent player, my condolences to all whom he called a friend.
The late Mr. McGarvey
I've never had a problem following Rob McGarvey's advice. I think you'd be safe with any that he recommended, however I'd first check www.casinomeister.com for any updated information on them.
I've never had a problem following Rob McGarvey's advice. I think you'd be safe with any that he recommended, however I'd first check www.casinomeister.com for any updated information on them.
Sonny
Well-Known Member
$64,000 = A great start
I have played most of the links on Rob's website (about 2 years ago) and they have all been reliable. Just make sure that you READ THE TERMS & CONDITIONS at each website before you make your deposit. Different casinos will have different requirements and some will have "sticky" bonuses that you cannot withdraw.
-Sonny-
I have played most of the links on Rob's website (about 2 years ago) and they have all been reliable. Just make sure that you READ THE TERMS & CONDITIONS at each website before you make your deposit. Different casinos will have different requirements and some will have "sticky" bonuses that you cannot withdraw.
-Sonny-
phantom007
Well-Known Member
Info. for Hurricane and any other interested Parties....
Go to www.WizardofOdds.com, click on "Blackjack", scroll down to the bottom, then click of "APPENDIX 3a". Pretty much gives the info. that I alluded to in above post. Still does not seem like the one I originally read, but is all I can find right now.
Good Cards!
ph007.
Go to www.WizardofOdds.com, click on "Blackjack", scroll down to the bottom, then click of "APPENDIX 3a". Pretty much gives the info. that I alluded to in above post. Still does not seem like the one I originally read, but is all I can find right now.
Good Cards!
ph007.