Overplayed?

[pitbosssteve]

I have played advantage blackjack at the borgata in AC for over 100 hours this summer. I play at the $10 tables with a spread up to $150 but only when the count is very high. I have only played here as it is the only place that has six decks outside of the high limit rooms in the area. I also think that borgata has the most large betting action in Atlantic city. I haven't had any "heat" from the floor people but I am concerned that I may be playing too often here as I would hate to not be able to spread my bet at this casino. Am I in danger of being told to flat bet at the lower limit tables? - or do they not watch these tables carefully due to the heavy action at the $25 min tables? I use my players card each time I play. Although I enjoy the free food and everything with the comps I am thinking maybe I shouldnt be using my card anymore or would it not make a difference?

 

[moo321]

Get a card under another name. If they catch on to that identity, get a new one.

 

[InPlay]

All casinos that I have been to ask for ID. So how would you get another card without ID ? Or should I ask the question how do YOU get multiple IDS ?

 

[GeorgeD]

All casinos that I have been to ask for ID. So how would you get another card without ID ? Or should I ask the question how do YOU get multiple IDS ?

Maybe same way some underage kids get ID: (Dead link: http://www.theidshop.com/)

Probably making and using th eid is perfectly legal .... presenting it you or using it for an illegitimate purpose is likely another story. Not sure how that applies to getting a players card ....... not that I'd endorse anything illegal.

 

[shadroch]

All casinos that I have been to ask for ID. So how would you get another card without ID ? Or should I ask the question how do YOU get multiple IDS ?

Just walk thru the slot area and grab a card someone left behind.There are some dangers associated with it,but for the most part it works fine.

 

[Cardcounter]

Pit bosses love freaquent visters!

I customer to a casino over and over again is a valued customer to the casino so long as they think you are a loser. If they let you play they think you are loser, even though you my be a winner. You can help this impression by pocketing chips and cashing out less chips than you really have at the cashiers cage. A favorite trick of mine is to cash the excess chips at another casino by buying in with foreign checks. That way survelanince doesn't see you cashing out a boat load of chips.

 

[shadroch]

You don't think cashing in a bunch of foriegn chips is a signal that you are rat-holing there as well?

 

[ihate17]

depends on the casino or oh, I must of picked up the wrong card

Just walk thru the slot area and grab a card someone left behind.There are some dangers associated with it,but for the most part it works fine.

At some casinos if the pit runs your card into their computer up pops your scanned drivers licence. It is good to know this.

ihate17

 

[Knox]

1) I've never had to show a DL to get a card?

2) I've never had to show a card or ID to cash chips, even $1000-$2000

 

[pitbosssteve]

At borgata you need to show ID in order to use your comps for anything ie food / shops. My real concern is whether I've played there too long and also what would they do to me if i refuse to flat bet?

 

[Kasi]

what would they do to me if i refuse to flat bet?

I really have no idea but I imagine they would shuffle every hand or put cut card after 52 cards or change sign to lower max bet to min bet and no mid-shoe entry. Or change sign to $500-$1000 min bet.
Cut off ur comps and generally make life as miserable as they can.

U don't actually think u would stand a chance do u?

Resistance is futile - ask the Borg

 

[shadroch]

At some casinos if the pit runs your card into their computer up pops your scanned drivers licence. It is good to know this.

ihate17

Yes,that is good to know.I generally only surf for premium cards to use for jumping long buffet lines.

 

[shadroch]

At borgata you need to show ID in order to use your comps for anything ie food / shops. My real concern is whether I've played there too long and also what would they do to me if i refuse to flat bet?

Right,but you aren't concerned with the comps. Using another players card buys you free time to play as you want. If you get caught,its the other player who gets listed as a counter,not you.By using a new card each time,you are ,in effect,adopting a new ID each time.

 

[21forme]

At some casinos if the pit runs your card into their computer up pops your scanned drivers licence. It is good to know this.

ihate17

Do you mean scanned from the magnetic strip (is your picture digitally encoded on the strip?) or optically scanned?

 

[ihate17]

More and more

1) I've never had to show a DL to get a card?

2) I've never had to show a card or ID to cash chips, even $1000-$2000

Knox
I think today most casinos are asking for some kind of photo ID when issueing a players card. Later at some pits I have seen my photo pop up on their screen when checking my account. I say I think this is becoming common but I am not sure because at most places I go without a card, a phoney ID or even someone else's card out of a slot bank.

ihate17

 

[shadroch]

You have to show ID to get the card,but you do not have to let them scan the ID.They can hand enter the info. Pain in the ass for them,but not your problem.

 

[21forme]

You have to show ID to get the card,but you do not have to let them scan the ID.They can hand enter the info. Pain in the ass for them,but not your problem.

How do you get them to manually enter the info without arousing suspicion of some kind?

 

[shadroch]

Talk about blaclk helicopters,ZOG,ect,ect.The person at the club desk doesn't know if you are a card player or a slot player.Just tell them you don't want the guberminint having too much information.

 

[ihate17]

What they will understand

Talk about blaclk helicopters,ZOG,ect,ect.The person at the club desk doesn't know if you are a card player or a slot player.Just tell them you don't want the guberminint having too much information.

I agree the black helicopters etc will often get the job done but if you think you can not sell the paranoia act, just tell them you have been a victim of identity theft and think your license was actually copied and reproduced from somewhere where it was scanned before.
"Had to get a new license number, new credit cards, change bank account numbers and have been trying to get my credit straightened out for over two years now and though I think you are completely trustworthy, I have no idea who else in your casino can access my file and it would be absolutely crazy for me to let you scan this license after what I have been going through."
Has not failed yet.

ihate17

 

[Sonny]

I agree the black helicopters etc will often get the job done but if you think you can not sell the paranoia act, just tell them you have been a victim of identity theft and think your license was actually copied and reproduced from somewhere where it was scanned before.

That's a great plan. If the person gives me a hard time about not scanning/photocopying my license I just politely say "Can I see your license?" Suddenly you don't look so paranoid.

-Sonny-