Player Interaction?

[dangeroso]

I was reading in Renzey's BJBB about player interaction. Side bets, buying doubles, etc. I'm fairly new at this, but I've never seen this happen at tables. How common is it?

I'm afraid that if I offered to double another player's hand he would either look at me like I had 2 heads, or think that I was offering charity and keep the full winnings.

 

[rollem411]

It is very profitable if you can get the opportunity. At the Trop a few weeks ago this man was playing $100 hands and the count was neutral. I had a min. $10 bet out and after a few rounds the opportunity came across where he had 6,5 v dealer 6. It was his last black chip so he and his wife were searching through there wallets and only came up with 50 for the DD. Of course, seeing this as a perfect opportunity, I ask him if I can throw the other 50 down and go in "as partners" as he put it. Sure enough, the dealer came out with a 10 for the 21 and then proceeded to bust. I'm pretty sure he thought he won because of good karma.

 

[Knox]

I don't care for this tactic. For example, "I'll go in with you on that double down". Great, but now the ploppy does not understand that you need to get your 1+1 units back after a win. Maybe they just want to pay you back the one unit. Better to just minimize your interaction to draw as little attention as possible.

 

[EasyRhino]

I think it's great, but I haven't had too many opportunities lately. It seems that most of the players have had adequate cash reserves, and knew when they had the best of a hand.

 

[shadroch]

You do well by building up a comradery with your fellow players. You can't sit there like a sphinx and then expect them to let you do this.I do quite well buying an Ace from folks reluctant to split them.

 

[Mimosine]

I don't care for this tactic. For example, "I'll go in with you on that double down". Great, but now the ploppy does not understand that you need to get your 1+1 units back after a win. Maybe they just want to pay you back the one unit. Better to just minimize your interaction to draw as little attention as possible.

i disagree. going in on the right doubles (and even several wrong doubles) as well as the correct splits is highly profitable.

it's like getting dealt a hand without having to wager on it. then you get to decide if you want to throw money on a hand that is a statistical winner.

if the person doesn't understand the payout you have to quickly evaluate the situation, often the dealer will step in and explain it before dealing the double down, if the person is a real new player, they usually let you explain it to them when you win/lose. if you think it will be more trouble than it is worth then maybe you shouldn't make the move. in my experience i can gauge if another player understands or not. so far i'd say about 9 out of 10 get it.

i've even seen ploppys/civilians get in on other people's doubles, there is no way i'm going to let THEM get away with it - and not try myself. that's my money!

 

[zengrifter]

I was reading in Renzey's BJBB about player interaction. Side bets, buying doubles, etc. I'm fairly new at this, but I've never seen this happen at tables. How common is it?

I'm afraid that if I offered to double another player's hand he would either look at me like I had 2 heads, or think that I was offering charity and keep the full winnings.

Its similar to card-counting, only its the ploppies and the casino, who you beat. zg

From - http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=847&highlight=scavenger

When our flashing dealer ended his stint the table was still filled to capacity, but The Grifter wanted to continue playing anyway, and indicated that I should watch. This table was filled with some of the worst players I’ve ever seen, but Grif had been giving them solid advice. He swung into action when the ploppy at first base picked up hard eleven. The Grifter boldly asserted, "Flip it over - we're going partners on that." He tossed the player the other half of the double down amount as the ploppy replied "Let’s ride!" They won the hand when the dealer busted.

Grif worked the table for the next hour, getting a slew of partner-doubles and splits (including tens), demonstrating what Grosjean calls "scavenger blackjack." More often than not the others he was exploiting would thank him for "sharing the risk." I wandered off to another table for awhile and played solo, breaking even. Returning to The Grifter’s table towards the end of the hour, I watched the master in action as he advised everyone - the life of the party as always, as he took advantage of one of his new "table partners who was declining insurance. The Grifter took the insurance bet and won and when the table partner asked how much he owed Grif he was told by a smiling Grifter, "all of it," whereupon the happless accomplice just shrugged and said, "better you then them because, Dude, your my advisor!" Shortly thereafter Grif colored up another 20 unit win at an otherwise unplayable table by any expert's evaluation - his style and outgoing personality allowing him to get away with things that I and most other counters would never even consider trying.

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[davidpom]

Shortly thereafter Grif colored up another 20 unit win at an otherwise unplayable table by any expert's evaluation - his style and outgoing personality allowing him to get away with things that I and most other counters would never even consider trying.

wow, high praise indeed. Go the Grifter!