Playing Blackjack online and related expectation questions.

[DoctorJames]

I have never played at an online based casino. I have been looking at the games offered though and I have a few questions. Most of them have terrible penetration. Like shuffling after each round etc... I know this kills the counter's advantage, at least as far as I understand. I am assuming that it does not effect expectation with Basic Strategy though.
Next question is, how much do rules such as the number of times you can resplit, and whether you can re-split aces affect expectation ? www.blackjackinfo.com 's strategy engine does not have those options for changing, so I am assuming it is a minimal change. But I have a distaste for assumptions, expectation is a different story... =)

I found this game today online which is what prompted me to ask these questions.
8 Decks, S17, D9, DAS, ENHC, Early surrender The early surrender is what caught my eye. It all comes to -0.04. But then again it is shuffled after each round. Is this a game worth playing ?

 

[The Mayor]

Many of the games you are describing sound like the Microgaming software rules. A complete and accurate basic strategy for these games is described at www.wizardofodds.com .

I do not suggest you play these games unless you are bonus hustling.

--Mayor

 

[SammyBoy]

Where's Rob E MacGravey?

I'm surprised he is not all over this one.

 

[Rob McGarvey]

IBM

Hi DJ. Your edge comes from playing the bonus. Imagine going to a casino, putting $100 on the table and they gave you $200 in chips! All you have to do is sit and play the minimum bet all day and you can walk away with your buy in and their bonus. Well, that is what happens when you play online. Stack 2000 of these casinos end to end and you'll be very busy making money. In fact, you will not have enough time to play all of these bonuses because there is an unlimited supply of them. We can pick choose and refuse these offers there are so many. Not all are worthy, but many of them are.

I have an online team, the IBM, Internet Blackjack Mafia, and we take $$ from both sides of these casinos. They want your business so bad they will pay for it. They pay me to bring them new players, and I pay you for using my links.

Sorry Sammy, didn't drop by til now. Thanks for thinking of me!

DJ, email this addy if you want to join the team:

[email protected]

 

[DoctorJames]

Re: IBM

Thanks again for the responses. Rob I will get back to you in about 6 months re: joining your team, Unless you give me a good reason why not to wait. From what I have seen I would need to wager between 1,500 - 2,500 to cash out these bonuses. At this point I am not ready to do that in addition to my land based (expenses), but as I said, I would happy to take some money from the net casinos in the future! =)

--paging dr. james, dr. james hamilton to the front desk please...

 

[Rob McGarvey]

2K

For how long would you have to bet your present BR for an expected return of 2K? That is the answer to your question. Part of it.

For how long would you have to bet your present BR for an expected return of 2K AFTER the variance is taken account for so you have 100% certainty of being ahead by 2K?

How about 20K? 50K? 100K?

Math questions for the imaginative person traped inside the confines of your own intelligence. ;>

Rob

 

[DoctorJames]

Re: 2K

Lay it out for me Rob ! I follow what your saying. I am not as quick with numbers as I would like to be but I have read enough to know that if I played with an average bet of 12$ with an average advantage of 1.25%, 50 hands an hour, 5-60$ bet spread, with a 3k bankroll I would make like 20 an hour, and if I could play 200 hands an hour for 40 hours a week at that same set of circumstances then I might be somewhere around 57.6k a year... So tell me what I need to do this, how often I need to play, and how to get around the fact that the Washington State G@mbling C0mission states that online betting is against Federal and State Law... ;-) Maybe a you need to e-mail me ?