Playing every other hand

[Friendo]

I saw a non-advantage gambler doing this during a poor stretch of the shoe the other night. He would play a hand or two, then sit out for a hand.

I occasionally see other players do this, with little correlation to the count.

Idiotically, I never thought to try it until now, but it looks like a cheap way to increase my spread a little in neutral counts, if used in moderation.

Has anyone here found that playing every other hand is a heat magnet?

 

[forwhat77]

People do it all the time. Try sitting out a few hands to "change the flow of the cards" during a bad stretch...:laugh:

Most people don't mind but you may catch hell from different types of ploppies.

 

[tthree]

Use the ploppys as cover

Catching hell from ploppys is a good tool. Once one gets in your face you can use it as an excuse for odd play. Most of them are on a power trip that do that. Their psychological make up makes it likely that they will hold their tongue if your decision is based on what you think they want. A willing accomplice takes the chance out of this rouse.

 

[BJgenius007]

Catching hell from ploppys is a good tool. Once one gets in your face you can use it as an excuse for odd play. Most of them are on a power trip that do that. Their psychological make up makes it likely that they will hold their tongue if your decision is based on what you think they want. A willing accomplice takes the chance out of this rouse.

Playing every other hand in negative count is the best play in a shoe game. Normally it will drive some ploppies away eventually because they are playing more hands in negative count. They will think you interrupt the "flow" and make them lose money, not knowing it is the negative count doing the job. When count turns positive, you will have less people to enjoy a good ride.

 

[moo321]

I don't think it's a good idea. Looks like you're up to something.

Why not just wong out when it goes negative?

 

[Friendo]

Why not just wong out when it goes negative?

Indeed I do, at -4 Mentor true count, which is roughly the same as -1 High-Low.

I was in a long stretch of at-or-near-zero counts, so I had plenty of time to ponder the meaning of the universe, the nature of the true count theorem, and the surprisingly large percentage of double-down bets one can lose in one evening.

I played 6 shoes which refused either to move higher or to drop to my Wong-out threshold.

 

[Gamblor]

Do it on occasion. But don't do it repeatedly or consistently.

 

[Midwestern]

Idiotically, I never thought to try it until now, but it looks like a cheap way to increase my spread a little in neutral counts, if used in moderation.

this doesnt attract heat to a ploppy because ploppies are losing players.

as an AP, you have far better uses of your time than to play neutral counts the way a ploppy does.

 

[aslan]

I saw a non-advantage gambler doing this during a poor stretch of the shoe the other night. He would play a hand or two, then sit out for a hand.

I occasionally see other players do this, with little correlation to the count.

Idiotically, I never thought to try it until now, but it looks like a cheap way to increase my spread a little in neutral counts, if used in moderation.

Has anyone here found that playing every other hand is a heat magnet?

I sit out hands all the time. Sometimes I go to the bathroom or make a phone call, but at other times, I just sit there. What draws the heat is if you don't sell it. If you think they will know why you are sitting out, then you probably give away your purpose. You have to be confident in your ability to sell what you're doing. Don't over act. And don't be paranoid. Either, especially the latter, can be seen a mile away. Relax! You're good. Be confident. Don't worry. Be happy.

PS-- Sure, I'm always waiting for someone to tap me on the shoulder, or think they will when I least expect it. But I don't show it. And it almost never happens.

 

[Multiple dk counter]

Playing 8-deckers in Atlantic City

I'm stuck playing in Atlantic City where most of the lower-limit games are eight decks, hit soft 17, 75 percent penetration. It's almost impossible to wong because of the lack of low-limit games. But I'll do almost anything not to play when the count gets too negative.

When I sit down to play, I try to notice the relative "skill" of the ploppies. I also look for other ploppies to sit out hands first, which automatically (in my mind, anyway) gives me the green light to sit out.

Since I don't have much choice in wonging, I'll play negative counts up to a true 1 or 1.5 very early in the eight-decker with good penetration. Then regardless of all other factors, I'll waive the dealer off and sit out till the count is at least close to neutral. If the ploppies complain, I'll offer some lame excuse, such as I'm trying to change the "flow of the cards" (LOL). If it happens later in the shoe (midway, for instance) and I like the table because of exceptional penetration, I'll ask the dealer to put a marker at my spot, and leave the table till the next shuffle. It I'm getting lousy penetration, I'll leave any table for good when the count reaches a true minus one.

Again, for low-limit counters, there's not too much choice in A.C., so there's a lot you have to put up with if you want to play. More often than not, I'll "front count" just to play, meaning that as soon as the count reaches minus one true -- and if the penetration is bad -- I'll leave the table no matter what.

It's tough making a buck in A.C. with the lousy eight-deckers, but a top counter, with his index numbers (plus great B.J. table saavy through years of playing and studying), CAN do it. I'm proving that. (Still playing after thirty years, but not making a heck of a lot).

 

[FLASH1296]

Multiple dk counter,

Drop me a P.M. when you exceed 10 posts, so that we can chat.

 

[zengrifter]

I saw a non-advantage gambler doing this during a poor stretch of the shoe the other night. He would play a hand or two, then sit out for a hand.

I occasionally see other players do this, with little correlation to the count.

Idiotically, I never thought to try it until now, but it looks like a cheap way to increase my spread a little in neutral counts, if used in moderation.

Has anyone here found that playing every other hand is a heat magnet?

I have found it to be an acceptable "spread increaser" as you call it. zg