PLogic

Coug It

Active Member
Plogic= what I call "ploppy logic".

Playing a game dealt face down. Dealer makes her hand to 20 and beats the table. When the cards are turned over the ploppy next to me has two Aces and a 4. So I say to him, "Did you just stay on 6 ?!?" His reply, "Well, I looked at it as 16 and the dealer had been busting, so I stayed. To which I promptly chastise him for "screwing up the cards" and "making" the dealer not break. (thus fighting plogic w/ plogic).

The even more humorous exchange happened a round later when I doubled down on A-4 and was dealt an Ace (dealer busted and I won). Next hand I'm dealt a hard 16 to which I lament to the dealer "A sixteen!". She says to me, "You didn't complain about your 16 last hand". My reply...

"No, that was a 6, just ask him" (nodding to my right). The ploppy's brilliant, grumpy comeback.... the classic "whatever"

PLogic, what a beautiful thing.
 

SammyBoy

Well-Known Member
I actually saw a ploppy stand on 11 (2-2-3-4) the other day in a pitch game. The dealer made her hand with a 5 showing. I told the ploppy after the dealer filpped his tucked cards, "you had eleven, why didn't you hit it?" He said, I thought it was 12.

What can you do?
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
I have seen the ploppy reason given: I wanted to save the bust card for the dealer. Certain players routinely stay on hands like A,5 vs. dealer 6 for the same reason. When I say "certain players" I mean that I don't want to sound racist -- but it is actually a cultural norm -- the way a certain culture has learned to play the game, and believes is the right way to play.

--Mayor
 

hammer

Well-Known Member
logic

say a gal db on 2,3 dealer showing,well it doesn't matter,
i asked what are you expecting to get,she replied well the dealer
has a 6,I asked again,what are you expecting to get.

I had a large bet out there and lost and the lady won,as the dealer
bust.
 

Big Cowboy

Well-Known Member
Mr. Mayor, just to let you know that I am Asian. Let me come out and say that in my experience playing BJ, your reply could easily refer to Asians, especially the rich ploppies from Hong Kong who have too much money and not too much sense. If I'm alone at a table and an Asian person sits down next to me, I am usually rolling my eyes inside. I know it shouldn't make any sense but playing at a table with other Asians usually makes me take to drink whiskey. I only wish I had the money roll of these other people because the money they have usually goes right to the casinos.
 

learning to count

Well-Known Member
Excuse me if I descent from the "cultural norm" thing. I have seen ploppies of all races, and creeds too, do outragious plays including double on anything thinking they are getting the edge or wishing they are getting the edge! As far asians go I have known some that were BJ wizards at AP and at poker. Watch out they are numerous and do have the economic presence to give LV a hurting. I have noticed that they are a force in the Las Vegas dealer work force and they seem to be fairly serious about taking our money! Ploppies as defined are ignorant human beings who dont give a shit about learning how to survive when gambling away the mortgage! LTC
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
You are correct, sir. I hesitate to be the least bit culturally biased, but it does seem there are cultural ways of playing bj that become the norm, just as Roulette seems to be the game of choice of the French.
 

LV Bear

Administrator
Question for Hammer

You had a large bet out, so I assume the count was strongly positive.

You said the dealer busted, but you lost, which is only possible if you busted first.

A stiff is hit against a 6 only in negative counts.

What happened?
 

hammer

Well-Known Member
Re: Question for Hammer

I believe the dealer actually had a 7 which I consider a bust card
evenmore than a 2 or 3. i hit my 7,5 and got a 10..whamo....
something like that,,,I know I lost that hand.
 

SammyBoy

Well-Known Member
There are many Asian players where I play, it appears that most of them love to play the no bust strategy. I love it when I'm at third base and I hit my 16 against the dealers 10 and I draw a 10. They start chattering a mile a minute. I have no idea exactly what they're saying, but it's obvious they're not happy with me. Some of them even get mad at me when I walk up to their table. But most of them are very friendly and I enjoy playing with them.
 
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