Question about Royal Match on 6D

I have spent the last month or so reading and re-reading the Wong trilogy (Basic Bj, Pro Bj, and Bj Secrets =P )I ran into a paragraph in one book that was repeated in another that said Royal Match bet in a Six Deck game with 2 to 1 Suited and 3 to 1 Royal was a good bet. My local Card Room (15 house edge tables allowed) has royal match on 2 or 3 Bj tables. I always stayed away from it until now. I cashed in with 40 to play 20 on 2 dollar flat bet BS and 20 for Royal Match as an experiment. Played for 4 hours, ended up loosing 26 dollars total. I calculated that over the course of my session I won 80 dollars playing the royal match bet. The 16 dollars I walked out with was all 50 cent pieces from Royal Match. Here is the kicker. suited pays 2.5 to 1, suited natural pay 5 to 1 and Royal Match pays 25 to 1, So it seems to have better payouts than the bet described by Mr. Wong. I was wondering if anyone knows or has the means to calculate the Advantage of this bet with the payouts I mentioned ? If I remember Wongs numbers correctly these payouts would make it very player friendly.

I got my first bit of heat too. Last week I was playing at 4 in the morning, the shuffle machine was not operating so they were hand shuffling... so I couldnt play as many rounds as I would have liked. But anyway, I was spreading 1 to 4, I sat out at grossly negative counts. Anyway the dealer points to my hand which is A,6 and his up card is a 6. I act like I am thinking about what to do. I double my bet and signal for one card, He pulls it out of the shoe sees it is a 4 and holds it up and calls the pit ! Tells the boss He exposed the card to me prior to my decision, and she tells him to burn it and to give me a new card. It was a shit card, and the dealer beat my total by one. Rest of the morning, all three bosses did nothing but watch me. So I did a 1:2 spread and smiled alot. =) Ended up being down 40 dollars for the night, the same total that I lost on that burned card hand.

I have a bit of a problem keeping the RC, I try to be involved at the table, social and fun to be around and it gets hard to remember the number, anyone have a trick they use to remember ? I figure that my "heat" was because the pit actually believed I spotted the card and not because I am an aspiring counter, but it was fun. (and frustrating)
 

learning to count

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James Grossjean has the answer in Beyond counting. He also gives a side count to play this game. The game is tuff though with a small advantage. Actually its not worth the trouble. There are better oppurtunities elseware. If you need to play side bet games check out lucky ladies there is a lot written on that bet. The advanatage is slightly better than royal match.
 
Thanks for the response LTC. I keep forgetting to bring the Wong book that has the exact number for Royal Match 6D with me when I use this computer. But I am fairly confident that the bet Wong described had a top payoff of 3:1 and he said it thus had a slight advantage as you said, even without any type of count. What I would be interested to know is precisely what the advantage is with the payoffs at this particular casino and actually to know if that payoff system is rare. The payoffs being 2.5:1 on first two cards suited, 5:1 suited natural, and 25:1 suited queen king. There maybe be an additional payoff if your queen king is also suited with a face shown by the dealers up card. That is so rare though I am not interested. Wether it is worth my time or not I would think would be determined by the exact advantage. If it is greater than .78 percent (flat betting), then it would make my local game an even game. Of coarse any greater and it would be an advantage without having to count anything. To compensate for the -.78 BS expectation, suck ass pen. and a dampered means of wonging, I will take what I can get. I know I am asking alot for someone to crunch the numbers for this but I am not well versed in Statisical formulas. I do not want to make bad bets either and could use all the help I can get. My guess is that like Video Poker this bet will have a high variance (if that is the right word), but many people swear Video Poker is more beatable than (modern) Blackjack. So with some raw numbers I think I could calculate the optimum bet. My thought is that it will be the max bet, which is 25 $ for that bet, and to minimum bet Bj and play BS. I could then have a friend count, and wong in and out as much as we could get away with at the hole in the wall we play at (WA card rooms only have 15 tables total). Might make for a good cover... Two (appearently) compulsive gamblers, One who bets big on a rare payoff and another who occassionaly throws out a green chip until he looses a hand (when the count goes back down).
 
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