Question for T-Hopper

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joe_r_black

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In your free ebook it states the TH Basic performs 30% better than KO Core or High Low. While most systems use generic basic strategy and then have indices for basic strategy departures, you seem to have combined the two to create a modified basic strategy that utilizes the higher betting units at the departure points and incorporates that into the modified basic strategy.

How does your TH Basic system compare to HighLow with the Catch 22 or with say 50 High Low indices?

How does it compare to Zen with the Catch 22 and with 50 indices?
 
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Rob McGarvey

Well-Known Member
I asked a similar question at the CCC:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blackjackcardcounterscafe/message/17704

RM:Great news! Please tell us how it stacks up against already
available systems like Hi Low, Zen, Hi Opt II, etc."

> That's what http://www.bjrnet.com/thop is for.

RM:Yes, but all I see is "rating." What are you using to rate the
systems with? What is the PE and BE of each system. I think it
might be a good idea to show how they stack up against each other
using the standard methods of comparisions already being used.

> Extensive simulation results and the risk vs. return using optimal
bets.

> What is the PE and BE of each system.

PE and BC(not BE) measure the potential of each set of possible
point count values, not the real-world performace of a complete
system. The T-H point count values have a theoretical BC of .98,
and PE .56 (.70 with ace side count). I don't have the Bushido
numbers handy, but it is very similar to UBZ (.97/.63).

> I think it
> might be a good idea to show how they stack up against each other
> using the standard methods of comparisions already being used.

ROI is equivalent to SCORE, DI, and N0. In fact, a page of
conversion charts between these measures is given in the Advanced
section of each series. The system comparison rating is calculated
as System ROI/T-H ROI * 100 for each game. I grouped systems for
comparison purposes according to the following levels:

Basic: Running count for betting and insurance only
Intermediate: Running count for playing and betting, partial set of
indices (usually 16-24)
Advanced: True count for playing and betting, full set of indices
Expert: True count with one side count

RM:Super! Your different approach should be well received by newer
players, and possibly frowned upon by "The Old Boys" network, which
means you made the grade! Congratzi......

Are YOU convinced?? smile
 
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T-Hopper

Well-Known Member
In your free ebook it states the TH Basic performs 30% better than KO Core or High Low. While most systems use generic basic strategy and then have indices for basic strategy departures, you seem to have combined the two to create a modified basic strategy that utilizes the higher betting units at the departure points and incorporates that into the modified basic strategy.
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Yes, I call it a "dollar-weighted" strategy. Normal BS is unweughted, leading to poor results for a card counter.

How does your TH Basic system compare to HighLow with the Catch 22 or with say 50 High Low indices?

How does it compare to Zen with the Catch 22 and with 50 indices?
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I didn't create any new subsets of systems for my comparisons. I used entire systems exactly as published. You can see how High-Low Lite Sweet 16 from Blackbelt in Blackjack compares to T-H/Bushido Intermediate at http:/www.bjrnet.com/thop/intsystems.htm , and how the complete Zen compares to T-H and Bushido Advanced at (Dead link: http://www.advsystems.htm) . If you want to compare systems of different levels, you can either eyeball the scale from my 3D System Charts, or buy the books and have the EV, SD, and ROI available for any game or spread you might choose.

If I sell enough books, there will be an interactive CD-ROM version later that will include the System Reports for other counts. For now, I've gone out of my way to make it easy for anyone else to reproduce my results.
 
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