Well friends have convinced me I must start to learn Texas Holdum so have the famous "What one book should I buy" question. not planning on playing high stakes games probably 2-4-6 or the like. have played 7 card stud some at low takes back in the early 90s. any advice would be welcome,thanks.
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Heard that before, but unfortunately if doesn't answer the question. My limited experience over four months or so has left me in no uncertain mind that even the sucker(s) at the table can beat the "sharks" if the right cards show up at the right time.
So how many hands do you need to play before you can fall back and make a judgement on whether you're a good or bad player, play with a neg or pos EV, and have just been lucky/unlucky in the past?
So how many hands do you need to play before you can fall back and make a judgement on whether you're a good or bad player, play with a neg or pos EV, and have just been lucky/unlucky in the past?
callipygian would probably have an idea...
() and SD for my last 100 sessions (just over 300 hours), and it’s not pretty.
Even worse, my average hourly loss for my last 50 sessions is almost exactly the same, which proves I’m not getting any better.
*Of course you should do it. To not answer your question, I have no idea how many hands you need to get meaningful statistics.
Are you sure you want to do that?* Because I recently calculated my average hourly lossnewb99 said:
() and SD for my last 100 sessions (just over 300 hours), and it’s not pretty.Even worse, my average hourly loss for my last 50 sessions is almost exactly the same, which proves I’m not getting any better.
*Of course you should do it. To not answer your question, I have no idea how many hands you need to get meaningful statistics.
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I ask as I read a post on the 2+2 forum to the effect that someone had 1,800 hands under their belt and . . . .
The responses were pretty derisory (one responder said he played that every day) in that he needed to play many many thousands of hands before any firm conclusions could be drawn. As most recreational players (myself included) are likely to draw their last breath long before they will ever reach the tens of thousands mark, does this leave poker simply as a game of chance for us? (in the same way that BJ would be for anyone playing once a month for a couple of hours - me again as it happens).
The responses were pretty derisory (one responder said he played that every day) in that he needed to play many many thousands of hands before any firm conclusions could be drawn. As most recreational players (myself included) are likely to draw their last breath long before they will ever reach the tens of thousands mark, does this leave poker simply as a game of chance for us? (in the same way that BJ would be for anyone playing once a month for a couple of hours - me again as it happens).
A sucker can beat the sharks if the right cards show up, but he won't be able to milk top dollar out of them. I could beat Mike the Mouth if dealt a straight flush, but you can be pretty sure he won't be putting much money into the pot. Moreover, does it really matter if you are winning with skill or with luck? This isn't your profession, is it?newb99 said:
Playing 1000 hands on the mid-bet tables at Bellegio will surely give you a different result than 1000 hands with your buddies down at the VFW.
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Again, depends what cards come out and the positions of each player. If the flop brings 3,3,Q, and the "shark" is holding a pair of queens you can be sure they'll be some serious action coming from that direction. If you're holding a pair of threes in late position and are chip leader you could do quite well I think.shadroch said:
What's a/the VFW?shadroch said:
