Question on house edge for DD game

[DeTalores]

Does being able to double on 8's change the edge at all in a DD game. In the basic strategy engine it says the house has a .47%edge with doubling on 9,10,11
Late surrender H17 DAS only split aces twice and one card on each ace.

 

[sabre]

Not for basic strategy, since there are no doubles on 8.

It will be marginally better for a counter, since 8v5 and 8v6 become doubles at reasonable counts.

The lack of soft doubles really hurts both the basic strategy player and counter.

 

[moo321]

It's not the 8's, it's the soft doubles that kill you. At neutral counts it has little effect, but your advantage increases more slowly at high counts.

 

[FLASH1296]

This is an ugly game.

Where is it?

Reno ?

 

[apartius]

You can double on A,7 which is 18 or 8 (works for A,8 and A,9 (not recommended) as well) when it says double on 8, 9, 10, 11 only.

 

[kewljason]

You can double on A,7 which is 18 or 8 (works for A,8 and A,9 (not recommended) as well) when it says double on 8, 9, 10, 11 only.

If you double an A7 and catch a 2, is your total 20 or 10? I have heard of places that will only count it as 10. (you doubled on your 8 and pulled a 2)

 

[apartius]

Logically, I would assume that it would count as 10 or 20. Since a soft A,7 is 8 or 18.

 

[kewljason]

Logically, I would assume that it would count as 10 or 20. Since a soft A,7 is 8 or 18.

But the rules state you can only double on 8-11, therefore A7 counts as 8 NOT 18. when you hit it with a 2, your total goes from 8 to 10. NOT 20. I have heard of some casinos that do this, thats why I was asking.

 

[DeTalores]

Hmm. Nah it counts as 20, where I play.
Is this really that bad of a game?