Quitting while behind

shadroch

Well-Known Member
In the course of many sessions, at some point I find myself down a substantial number of units. I know this is simply bad variance and fully expect things will revert to the norm and I'll go on a positive trend and recover.
But should I?
Suppose I find myself down $1,000. Why not quit?
Sure, I'm down $1,000 but the game will be there when I come back.
My thoughts are that the pit will record my loss and it will go on my permanent record. I could keep playing and whittle that $1,000 into a $500 loss, but is that really to my advantage?
Won't the casino look at my next few winning sessions with less suspicion if they see a $1,000 loss in a recent session.
 

daddybo

Well-Known Member
shadroch said:
In the course of many sessions, at some point I find myself down a substantial number of units. I know this is simply bad variance and fully expect things will revert to the norm and I'll go on a positive trend and recover.
But should I?
Suppose I find myself down $1,000. Why not quit?
Sure, I'm down $1,000 but the game will be there when I come back.
My thoughts are that the pit will record my loss and it will go on my permanent record. I could keep playing and whittle that $1,000 into a $500 loss, but is that really to my advantage?
Won't the casino look at my next few winning sessions with less suspicion if they see a $1,000 loss in a recent session.
Ah, my friend. It is very good to leave a loss. Go to another store and play to win it back. Since I know your a comp guy... it's even better.
 

Lonesome Gambler

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If I have an extraordinarily bad loss, I'll usually get up to leave and make sure the pit has my play recorded as such. Sometimes I won't play rated, but I'll have a boss back up my play if I've had a heavy loss. Either way, you've got the right idea: maximize the appearance of loss. I never understood why people get crazy after losing a bunch and have to keep playing to "get even." You're giving yourself more exposure in the pit, possibly not playing as well as usual, and you're missing a great opportunity to look like a big loser!
 

Mr. T

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What are you trying to say.
Do you want to quit gambling.
Do you find it difficult to stomach the negative variance.
Do you just want to pretty up your record with that casino.
Are you at a lost about gambing.
 

FLASH1296

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The consensus is clear.
Longevity is blessed by showing a few nice fat losing sessions.
Let them record a sizable loss in their data base.

Another reason to STOP is quite valid.
Many of us, if we can be honest with ourselves,
will admit that we play less accurately when we
are feeling stressed by a large loss.
I think that numerous small losses are better than a few large ones.

The most common things that happen are over-betting and F.P.S. ("fancy play syndrome").
These factors have us betting our +1 counts as if they are +2, our +2 counts as if they are +3, etc;
and making Basic Strategy Departure Plays - without fully realizing the requisite index !

These are bad things, and YES, the casinos will be there whenever you play next.
Do not act as if you can't tolerate a losing session. That is for ploppies.
 
My experience is that you are more likely to get a backoff when you are down. Casino employees are basically ploppies and they like the concept of "quitting while they're ahead" too. Tossing you out with their money in tow is counterproductive in their psychology. So I'd leave and come back on another shift, unless there are extraordinary circumstances.
 

aslan

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Automatic Monkey said:
My experience is that you are more likely to get a backoff when you are down. Casino employees are basically ploppies and they like the concept of "quitting while they're ahead" too. Tossing you out with their money in tow is counterproductive in their psychology. So I'd leave and come back on another shift, unless there are extraordinary circumstances.
I have to agree. I got backed off when I was $500 down. WTF? If I had been up, the PC might have figured he'd wait and see if I didn't lose a few before he backed me off.
 

blackchipjim

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The loser

I love to look like loser and play it up good it takes alot of heat off you in the long run. If you play it right they may only think of you as a loser and allow you win without heat.
 

shadroch

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Meistro said:
i hate leaving stuck

I do too, but then I started thinking about what the PB sees when he logs my card in. I figure an occasional large loss on paper can't hurt. I'll get it back next time and the pit won't see nothing but small wins on my rap sheet.
 
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