Red Seven,K-O,Hi/Lo,Zen,Mentor or Kiss??

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Hi guys, after reading some books and posts, I have noticed that basicly in comon, level two counting system can let you win about 10% more money than Level 1 counting, but the betting correlation is quite similar, Hi/Lo 97%, K-0 98%, Mentor 97%, Rea seven 98%, Zen 96%. Even Level 2 counting has less BC than Level 1 counting. How this happen??? And for a 6deck shoe game, with couting system can ley you win most money for Casino????
Any commoents are appreciate.. Thank you.

 

[godeem23]

I believe it because of much stronger playing efficiency (especially in ace sensitive counts). I could be wrong and if I am someone please correct me. I don't want this dude having some wrong info.

 

[Renzey]

I believe it because of much stronger playing efficiency (especially in ace sensitive counts). I could be wrong and if I am someone please correct me. I don't want this dude having some wrong info.

It's true. Usually, when you structure the card tags of a count to have a higher Playing Efficiency, the Betting Correlation goes down sharply. If it's a level one count, you have almost no flexibilty to compromise and have some of both. But with level two counts, you can assign the Ace a value of half what a 10 is -- rather than all, or none. You can then go ahead and assign the more important low cards a higher value than the less important ones. The result is, you can get a BC that is similar to a typical level one count with a PE that is much higher. Or, if you choose you can gain both a modestly higher BC and PE. Some examples follow:

COUNT............LEVEL............BC............PE
Hi/Lo.................1...............97%.........51%
Hi Opt I.............1...............88%..........61%

Omega II...........2...............92%..........67%
Mentor..............2...............97%.........62%
Revere PC..........2...............98%..........55%

 

[sagefr0g]

anyone have a better definition of PE than this?

playing efficiency. (PE). A measure (related to the playing correlation) which indicates how closely a card counting system responds to changes in playing strategy. Single parameter systems can approach an optimum playing efficiency of about 70%. Higher playing efficiencies can be obtained only if separate counts are kept for different types of cards or if a multi-parameter system is used.

kind of hard to understand

 

[Ferretnparrot]

anyone have a better definition of PE than this?

playing efficiency. (PE). A measure (related to the playing correlation) which indicates how closely a card counting system responds to changes in playing strategy. Single parameter systems can approach an optimum playing efficiency of about 70%. Higher playing efficiencies can be obtained only if separate counts are kept for different types of cards or if a multi-parameter system is used.

kind of hard to understand

I think it means that if you keep track of the ratio of one group to another thats "one paramiter" and can only aproach an efficiency of only 70% to get 100% you would need to keep track of each card individually. Keeping track of aces seperate would fall somewhere in between those two probibly.