Red Seven

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YAESU

New Member
Hi all -

Im looking for any articals about the Red Seven count that compares it's
power with similar counts such as KO and T-H. More important, would be any thoughts on Red Seven from anyone who uses it.I have been learning to keep my RC
accurate for a month or so now, and soon will impliment the 4 easy BS
plays for RC of 0 and +2 (I think). Is there an easier yet more powerful
count than Red Seven? Btw - I need to stick with RC systems only as TC
conversions are difficult.

Thanks... Yaesu
 
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Seeker

Member
Recommending Red 7

In the Red 7, you pay attention to the color of the sevens. That unusual feature strikes many players as an obstacle. I'm guessing that's what zengrifter means by referring to extra effort.

In my experience, this very quickly becomes second nature. It's not a matter that should deter anyone from adopting the Red 7 count.
 
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Tripod

Member
Kiss Stage 3 and Red 7 MIX

I am thinking of adopting the Kiss Stage 3 and its indices according to Renzey. The one change I want to make is switch the BLACK 2 count value with Snyder's Red 7's.
 
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MrPill

Well-Known Member
Red 7's

I would concure with Seeker.

I have been using the Red 7 count for the past 4 or 5 years after it was recommended to me over KO by ZG on the old CardCounter Cafe board.

I have not looked at the KO recently but seem to remember that it used a different pivot point and indicies depending on the number or decks in use. Whereas the Red 7 did a IRC adjustment based on the number of decks (-2/deck) so all other numbers stayed the same. This is why I felt Red 7 was easier.

Also, as Seeker has stated recognizing the Red 7's vs Black 7's comes pretty easy. Your mind gets trained quickly and it is no different, in my mind than telling the difference between a 6 and an 8 after practice.

Good Luck,
Pill
 
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Tripod

Member
Very true but...

for some reason I feel more comfortable counting all 2 values and half 7's than counting all 7's and half 2's. I think its just more logical with basic strategy. Any further opinions?

I looked at Thorpes Ultimate count. He valued the 2 and 7 almost identically. I believe he gave the 2 a value of 5 and the 7 a value of 4. According to Thorpe the 2 is a slightly worse card for the player. 5 was the worse card, value of 11.

I think Renzey's strategy should hold about the same regardless of which way I go.
 
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