Reno Games ?

RenoRenagade

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I was wondering what games in reno allow surrender or have a real good game . So far I have found the boomtown to be real nice . Good game and they have a couple of dealers who will deal a entire single deck and not shuffle when you make a 4+ bet.

I keep hearing fitzgeralds is a good game but havent had a chance to get over there . Also the siena is suppost to have a good game as well. Just wondering if anyone has played there and know how many deals on avg you get before they shuffle and if you can play a 1-4 spread without getting a shuffle .

Since i just recently in the last month started playing blackjack in the casinos . Took a couple of months to memorize all the charts and practice my counting . I am a poker player so I know how all the poker rooms are but not finding enough time to go and check out all the BJ tables ?

Also anyone know of any good Blackjack tournaments here in Reno/ or even sparks or carson . I see lots of people have them but wondering if any of them are good ?

Also if there are any good 1-2$ games as well . I do prefer 3$-5$ since that is good for my roll . But even a good 10$+ game would be nice if they dont shuffle when you bet big.
 

Cardcounter

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Reno's Games!

I believe that Reno has the best blackjack games in the world! The games at Boomtown and Siena are really good games you usually get good penetration and very good rules. They have single deck with old style rules such as you can DOA, split any pairs, and they don't even rip you off when you get a blackjack. The Fitzgerald will give you all those rules plus you can late surrender, and a 6 card charlie is an automatic winner. I have played all 3 games above.
A couple of other games that I have heard of in the Sparks area the John Ausguas Nugget, The Silver Club, and I think there is one more place that has at least as good of rules Boomtown and the Siena, maybe as good of rules as Fitzgerald. However at the Nugget the rules changed from table to table as with the betting limits.
 

sagefr0g

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so why is it Reno has such great games and the rest of the world relatively sucks? :confused:
just curious anyone knows this?
 

jimpenn

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However at the Nugget the rules changed from table to table as with the betting limit

"However at the Nugget the rules changed from table to table as with the betting limits." Cardcounter

I agree. Mountaineer Park in West Virginia deals a good six deck game with a minimum of $50. In addition, the $100 minimum increases pen from good to excellent. I can't afford to pay these limits. Well, the $50 I could but I know my comfort level.
 

bj bob

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What's what in Renoland

The above mentioned games are all very good. SD, DOA with Ro6/7 penetration. As mentioned, Fitzgerald's since it's takeover has gone DOA, LS and 6 CC. The very same rules also apply at the Alamo Truck Stop in Sparks since that's who took them over. The only caveat I would insert here is that the heat at the Siena rivals that of Baker in mid-July.
The other clubs with exceptional SD games are Rail City and Silver Club in Sparks.
I was quite surprised by several DD games in joints that haven't been generally liberal in the past for their great rules and/ or pen, viz. El Dorado had a $5 table with DOA and pen. past 75%, so too with Peppermill, of all places. So these are worth the extra time and effort as well. You just have to scout the pits a little bit.
As far as BJ tourneys are concerned, The Siena usually has one 3-4 times a year, rather low end e.g. $3-8K, but are usually comped (for moi) and the atmosphere is casual and local. The Legacy also put two or so on per year. If you want the mailers just sign up and they'll send you all the current info.
 

EasyRhino

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Reno's not the best in the world. It is, however, the largest market in Northern Nevada. Which is a geographical historical oddity in that it has way more single deck games than anywhere else.

And some places on Virginia St. have downright trashy rules. H17, double on 10/11 only, and no double after split. That gives you a house edge as big as most shoe games.

My understanding is that in ye olde days, single deck was predominant everywhere in Nevada, and the rules were actually more generous in Vegas. However, Vegas adopted shoe games much more quickly (and many joints degraded the rules to equal or worse than Reno rules).

And of course, all of this ignores card counting, in which case single deck is pretty awesome, as long as you don't get caught.

El Dorado has a DD game now? Is it Mindplayed?
 

bj bob

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[/I]QUOTE=EasyRhino;72672]Reno's not the best in the world. It is, however, the largest market in Northern Nevada. Which is a geographical historical oddity in that it has way more single deck games than anywhere else.

And some places on Virginia St. have downright trashy rules. H17, double on 10/11 only, and no double after split. That gives you a house edge as big as most shoe games.

My understanding is that in ye olde days, single deck was predominant everywhere in Nevada, and the rules were actually more generous in Vegas. However, Vegas adopted shoe games much more quickly (and many joints degraded the rules to equal or worse than Reno rules).

And of course, all of this ignores card counting, in which case single deck is pretty awesome, as long as you don't get caught.

El Dorado has a DD game now? Is it Mindplayed?[/QUOTE]

If we're talking technical math it is (tongue sticking out). Just scan through CBJN and run down the HA column. Where else can you find <.18 HA at a half dozen places within 10 mins? From the latest reports Vegas is only left with 2 or 3 playable SD games, but it is though, the Mecca of great shoe games. You must remember that any pitch game inherently has a quantum advantage over a shoe game, ceteris paribus.
Yes, Vegas did historically have the best BJ in the world, the gold standard, for many years. Single deck, S-17 (on Strip), surrender and DOA. A few clubs even offered DAS on top of all that; however, the aftermath of the big time counting teams took its toll, resulting in today's lousy conditions. The tables, it seems to me, are now turning. What used to be Vegas' superior BJ rules are slowly infiltrating the historically inferior games in Reno (aka irony).
As to El Dorado- 1) yes 2) no.
 

RenoRenagade

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ok . so for people who live here what are the top 5 and best times to go to them .

And reno has good blackjack tables cuz vegas has all the good poker rooms , while reno has like 3 .

And card counter you seem to be from reno where you usually play ? I tried bonanza since i live like 2 min from it and they had a nice place cuz it was slow and the pit was non existant and the dealers are old and just deal the whole deck but have only DD on T11.Tried Boomtown and they were awsome some nice old dealers but the pit was very active . Atlantis sucked . Cal Neva sucked cuz they almost are all 6-5 tables , peppermill had couple of good tables but shuffled on any big bet or after 3 deals so it pretty much sucks and had all the middle age by the books dealing the higher stakes. Thats all ive been able to hit up so far.
 
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WRX

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You can find games with great rules, just see the tips people have given you here and get a copy of CBJN. Unfortunately, some of the games with the best rules have lousy penetration. As a new counter, you need to understand how critical penetration is to the quality of the game. So scout around. The great thing about downtown Reno is you have several casinos within easy walking distance. There are also some great 6 deck games out there, with only 1 deck or occasionally even less cut off. Although personally, shoe games bore me to tears.

Keep your sessions short. Move around. You have lots of choices in Reno, no need to draw attention to yourself.
 
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