Ridiculous Game - help me calculate MY edge

skip87

New Member
Saw this blackjack game on a computer

1 Deck, can play 1-3 hands

Blackjack pay is variable depending on composition of hand:
Ace-Ten: 1 to 1
Ace-Jack: 7 to 1
Ace-Queen: 5 to 1
Ace-King: 3 to 1

6 card charlie
Double any Two

Those are the main rules that I can remember off the top of my head. How do I calculate MY edge for this? Or can someone do it for me?
 

zengrifter

Banned
skip87 said:
Saw this blackjack game on a computer

1 Deck, can play 1-3 hands

Blackjack pay is variable depending on composition of hand:
Ace-Ten: 1 to 1
Ace-Jack: 7 to 1
Ace-Queen: 5 to 1
Ace-King: 3 to 1​

6 card charlie
Double any Two

Those are the main rules that I can remember off the top of my head. How do I calculate MY edge for this? Or can someone do it for me?
Looks positive EV to me. You must be leaving something out, like dealer takes pushes. zg
 

SleightOfHand

Well-Known Member
zengrifter said:
Looks positive EV to me. You must be leaving something out, like dealer takes pushes. zg
I'm also thinking that you are missing a very important rule. The T/J/Q/K are evenly distributed, so this is the equivalent of a 4:1 BJ payoff (EV-Wise), which is huge.
 
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skip87

New Member
SleightOfHand said:
I'm also thinking that you are missing a very important rule. The T/J/Q/K are evenly distributed, so this is the equivalent of a 4:1 BJ payoff (EV-Wise), which is huge.
what rules could significantly impact the game?
I don't lose pushes so this seems like a ridiculously advantageous game.
 

sabre

Well-Known Member
skip87 said:
what rules could significantly impact the game?
I don't lose pushes so this seems like a ridiculously advantageous game.
You said you saw this on a computer. I'm not clear if you saw this in a live casino or at an online casino.

In either case, if the the cards aren't dealt fairly, then there's no telling what the real edge on this game is. You could be looking at a Video Lottery Terminal live, or a rigged game online very easily.
 

SleightOfHand

Well-Known Member
skip87 said:
what rules could significantly impact the game?
I don't lose pushes so this seems like a ridiculously advantageous game.
There are plenty of things that they can do to eliminate the ~11.5% advantage from the rules you mentioned. Shorting the face cards, for example, would drastically reduce the value of the increased odds. Dealer 22 is a push is a ~7% reduction. Why not find out the complete rules, and we can help you out, rather than asking vague questions. Rule of thumb: if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is!
 
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Blue Efficacy

Well-Known Member
He just said that it's on his computer, never mentioned if it was for real money or not. His interest in his edge could be purely academic.
 
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