Room snooping

[blackriver]

How much should we be concerned about a casino snooping around your room? I've heard of problems in the past that seem unlikely today, but I've always been concerned and have had a few occasions where I know at least house keeping had been in my room even though I have a do not disturb sign. I've also had my dnd sign taken,i assume by another guest who didnt have one. Still worth mentioning maybe.

 

[aslan]

How much should we be concerned about a casino snooping around your room? I've heard of problems in the past that seem unlikely today, but I've always been concerned and have had a few occasions where I know at least house keeping had been in my room even though I have a do not disturb sign. I've also had my dnd sign taken,i assume by another guest who didnt have one. Still worth mentioning maybe.

I personally don't think they would do such a thing for a small fry like me, but if you are winning really big bucks, I wouldn't put anything past an alert surveillance. Now, even though I don't think they would snoop around my room, I do put any AP materials in the room safe.

I'm not superstitious either; knock on wood.

On the room sign, someone took mine last trip, too. I surmised as you did that some other guest took it. I walked a few doors down and stole someone else's and put it on my door. I always keep a do not disturb sign on my door throughout my stay unless I want the cleaning people to clean my room. I always leave the TV on as well, and sometimes a light. Call me paranoid; it's just my habit.

 

[Nicholas]

If you're staying in the hotel of the casino you win a jackpot, security has been known to go through your room to see if there is anything to indicate that cheating took place. This is how a couple of Keno cheaters got caught a few years back. Security found the blueprints of the Keno machine's random number generator in their room.

Legally they can do it, and they have done it. AP material might still be confiscated depending on if and how they view it as cheating.

Items in the room safe can still be accessed by hotel staff by inputting their default code. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW7M84khZy8 )

 

[aslan]

If you're staying in the hotel of the casino you win a jackpot, security has been known to go through your room to see if there is anything to indicate that cheating took place. This is how a couple of Keno cheaters got caught a few years back. Security found the blueprints of the Keno machine's random number generator in their room.

Legally they can do it, and they have done it. AP material might still be confiscated depending on if and how they view it as cheating.

Items in the room safe can still be accessed by hotel staff by inputting their default code. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW7M84khZy8 )

Wouldn't I have a good legal case against a casino that obtained "evidence" by breaking into my room safe without my permission?

 

[QFIT]

You will find a 25 page writeup on personal privacy by Rick Blaine at http://www.qfit.com/privacy1.htm. There is a section on Casino Hotel Rooms.

 

[FLASH1296]

aslan,

There is no "right to privacy" as a general rule, and certainly no constitutional protection; "peeping tom" and "stalking" statutes not withstanding.

Needless to say, on tribal property you have no rights.

 

[Nicholas]

Wouldn't I have a good legal case against a casino that obtained "evidence" by breaking into my room safe without my permission?

I agree but I imagine the casino would argue that it's their safe, in their room. I have no idea how it would hold up in court though.

 

[aslan]

You will find a 25 page writeup on personal privacy by Rick Blaine at http://www.qfit.com/privacy1.htm. There is a section on Casino Hotel Rooms.

Thanks, the part of room safes doesn't address what the legalities are with the casino looking in your safe, nor their obtaining knowledge of materials that are used to surmise one is an advantage player. But if they did, I doubt they would mention it. They would simply trespass you in Vegas, and alert floor staff to apply measures in AC. In either case, they are not required to explain their reasons so far as I know.

 

[aslan]

aslan,

There is no "right to privacy" as a general rule, and certainly no constitutional protection; "peeping tom" and "stalking" statutes not withstanding.

Needless to say, on tribal property you have no rights.

On the latter, do you mean "effectively" or actually?

 

[Nicholas]

On a similar note of securing your belongings, don't think for a second that putting a padlock on your luggage does any good. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf-DGKUNffI )

 

[aslan]

I guess leaving your private materials in the trunk of your car in the self-parking lot might be a good idea.

 

[shadroch]

I guess leaving your private materials in the trunk of your car in the self-parking lot might be a good idea.

In the parking lot of another casino. Arrive and leave by taxi.
In a similar vein, it doesn't hurt to get up and walk out of a casino every few hours. If the pit get suspicious of you, they might have security backtrack your movements in the casino, but they'll stop when they you walk in the door.

 

[QFIT]

aslan,

There is no "right to privacy" as a general rule, and certainly no constitutional protection; "peeping tom" and "stalking" statutes not withstanding.

This is an opinion spread by various groups that don't like the concept, with which the Supreme Court does not appear to be in agreement. Supreme Court justices Douglas, Black, Goldberg, Harlan and White have written opinions saying that privacy rights are a part of the Constitution, despite the fact the specific word is not therein. There are many USSC decisions touching on the subject.

I am not a lawyer and will not comment further on this or enter into a discussion on the subject as I have not studied it. I am just saying that if you feel your privacy rights have been violated, don't just throw up your hands and say there is no such thing as privacy rights. Besides, state constitutions have stronger rights in many states.